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Although they have rented it out to a restaurant for the past five years, the owners of one building in Aspe have never paid property tax. Nor have they ever paid tax on the apartments that house two of their employees. But that may be about to change.
Well, not really.
No goverment from the right of left will levy property taxes on the Catholic Church in Spain. This is just a lead ballon let loose by the socialist to play the "anticlerical" card, they are not antclerical at all but need votes and reinforce the idea that they are leftists (they are not leftists).
Just make believe.
The church is the only organization that truly helps the needy (Caritas), and they need money to maintain their historical properties.
Most people here are non-observant, most do not believe in any religion and most are not Christian, but every Spanish is Roman Catholic or Sephardic Jew wether he wants it or not.
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Well, not really.
No goverment from the right of left will levy property taxes on the Catholic Church in Spain. This is just a lead ballon let loose by the socialist to play the "anticlerical" card, they are not antclerical at all but need votes and reinforce the idea that they are leftists (they are not leftists).
Just make believe.
The church is the only organization that truly helps the needy (Caritas), and they need money to maintain their historical properties.
Most people here are non-observant, most do not believe in any religion and most are not Christian, but every Spanish is Roman Catholic or Sephardic Jew wether he wants it or not.
Very interesting. So do most Spaniards actually identify themselves as Catholics? I find it funny that they seem to hate the church, but still identify with it.
I'm actually in Spain right now. Havent heard anything about religion so far, whether positive or negative
Very interesting. So do most Spaniards actually identify themselves as Catholics? I find it funny that they seem to hate the church, but still identify with it.
I'm actually in Spain right now. Havent heard anything about religion so far, whether positive or negative
I think with most of the younger generation religion is not "so important" compared to the older generation.
The Catholic Church provides a free university education to the poor. That is really worth something. And because of all the scandals, they've lost a lot of members, and therefore a significant part of their income. So I don't think it's a good idea. They seem like an easy mark, but when you think about it, it doesn't seem like a good idea.
Very interesting. So do most Spaniards actually identify themselves as Catholics? I find it funny that they seem to hate the church, but still identify with it.
I'm actually in Spain right now. Havent heard anything about religion so far, whether positive or negative
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Buñuel, a famous film director that died years ago, used to say: "I'm Atheist Thanks to God"!!!
There's also a very old saying: "Spaniards are always following a priest, either kissing his cloak or running after him with a stick".
There a love-hate relation, but people love the secular and ritualistic side of the Catholic Church (festivals, processions etc). But most people are non compliant except for weddings, christenings, first communions and burials.
I think with most of the younger generation religion is not "so important" compared to the older generation.
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Most people have not been religious in Spain during the last 70 years, but until 20/11/1975 we had a thing called Nationalcatolicism. In little towns, if you did not go to church you were considered a communist, the Church censored films, there was no divorce, no abortion and women were considered legally as minors.
During the 50's, priests attacked tourist women with bikinis until Franco told them to stay quiet. They also loved to stone protestants and "heathens". All that ended when Eisenhower visited Spain in 1959.
So many people went to church because they were scared and priest could denounce you...Later, a part of the clergy turned against Franco (they always bet for all the numbers) and Franco started to ignore them, so we could see some naked skin, etc.
At that time, my family never set foot in a church because they all were from the Falange (Fascists), and there was no love lost between the Falange and the Catholic church.
In many ways, the Catholic Church did more harm to common people during Franco that the dictatorship itself.
The Catholic Church provides a free university education to the poor. That is really worth something. And because of all the scandals, they've lost a lot of members, and therefore a significant part of their income. So I don't think it's a good idea. They seem like an easy mark, but when you think about it, it doesn't seem like a good idea.
Not here, Catholic Universities (Jesuits, OPUS) charge about 10,000 to 15,000 € a year or even more.
Very interesting. So do most Spaniards actually identify themselves as Catholics? I find it funny that they seem to hate the church, but still identify with it.
I'm actually in Spain right now. Havent heard anything about religion so far, whether positive or negative
Catholic Religion in Spain is like a very old and cumbersome mahogany chest of drawers that you inherited from your great grandfather. The thing occupies a large part of your apartment, you bump with it everytime you are drunk and your wife hates it because "that piece of junk" does not follow her new decor....But you just love it.
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