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View Poll Results: Are people from the Celtic countries ethnically still different from the English?
Yes, they aren't any more English than a German or an Italian is, totally different ethnicity 36 24.49%
They're somewhat closer to being English than any other ethnicities are, but they're still different enough 74 50.34%
I consider all British Isles groups one single meta-ethnicity 37 25.17%
Voters: 147. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-16-2015, 07:28 AM
 
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Black people also have freckles. I don't see any facts to support your assertion that the light skin SNP's evolved in Hunter Gatherers not admixed your conjecture doesn't create facts. Red hair is found in Melanesians without any European admixture.

Your attempt at creating a straw man argument is woeful the Yamanya also contributed to the depigmentation of the swarthy Hunter Gatherers that was already mentioned.

It is clear that the depigmentation process took time the study I posted which you extracted facts from indicates that.
You are now blabbing nonsense! O.K., as it has already been established the Hunter-Gatherers of Southern and Central Europe were in the majority light-eyed(mainly blue), but were still dark-skinned and dark-haired, but those of Northern Europe, were pretty much "European-looking", pale-skinned, prevalently light-eyed, with some blonde and red-haired. In Caucasoid populations, the palest skins are commonest in populations which have the highest frequencies of rufous-haired genes(e.g. Celtic) and those with the highest frequencies of blondism (e.g. Scandinavian). For this reason, we could call the northern Hunter-Gatherers as the "first truly white people".

 
Old 12-16-2015, 07:42 AM
 
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Why are you STILL babbling on about this!?
 
Old 12-16-2015, 08:09 AM
 
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The Yamanya or as North Eurasians from the Russian and Ukrainian Steppes. They were a much more advanced technologically in comparison to the indigenous Humter-Gatherers of Europe whom they most likely overcame. They were also more likely to be the progenitors of Indo-European speech in Europe. The Yamanyas were light-skinned, but were predominantly brown-eyed (89-90%), light eyes amounted to a max of 11%! This is much darker than the modern Ukrainian population where 65% have light eyes and still darker than even modern Southern Europeans particularly the Spaniards and Italians with whom they were compared. The Yamanya people were also not quite as light-skinned as most modern Europeans. In terms of eye color, they were overall outside of the European spectrum.
 
Old 12-16-2015, 10:17 PM
 
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Why are you STILL babbling on about this!?
Babbling about what? On threads topics are discussed, if you don't like it, move on to another. I was refuting a point that AFP made about how light-skinned genes were introduced into the European genome. Only telling that some groups in Northern Europe were already light-skinned and light-eyed 8,000 years ago, before the arrival the Early Farmers from the Near-East and the northern Eurasians from the Russian Steppes. This is that was not known before.
 
Old 12-16-2015, 10:36 PM
 
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Do you think all the people of the British Isles could be considered a meta-ethnicity now, much in the same sense Danes, Swedes and Norwegians are very much subgroups of the same Scandinavian people in certain ways, or in the way Czechs and Slovaks and Germans and Austrians are close blood?
The English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish are all what makes up the British Islanders. They are similar and closely related people, but they have differences amongst themselves on cultural and even genetical level. History has shaped also their identity too.
 
Old 12-17-2015, 07:25 PM
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The Yamanya or as North Eurasians from the Russian and Ukrainian Steppes. They were a much more advanced technologically in comparison to the indigenous Humter-Gatherers of Europe whom they most likely overcame. They were also more likely to be the progenitors of Indo-European speech in Europe. The Yamanyas were light-skinned, but were predominantly brown-eyed (89-90%), light eyes amounted to a max of 11%! This is much darker than the modern Ukrainian population where 65% have light eyes and still darker than even modern Southern Europeans particularly the Spaniards and Italians with whom they were compared. The Yamanya people were also not quite as light-skinned as most modern Europeans. In terms of eye color, they were overall outside of the European spectrum.
They arrived one horseback and with bronze weaponry and some researchers suspect they Yamnaya may have spread the plague to the Hunter-Gatherers.
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