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Old 03-18-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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What is the point of this thread? I think there are way more Africans in France & UK than in Spain because of the languages. The only Spanish speaking African country is Equatorial Guinea. So........????

 
Old 03-18-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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What is the point of this thread? I think there are way more Africans in France & UK than in Spain because of the languages. The only Spanish speaking African country is Equatorial Guinea. So........????
Some people have some prejudice against africans,they post thread that don't make sense as long as the objective is to bash africans.
 
Old 03-19-2014, 12:28 PM
 
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Those blacks are mostly people with degrees that paid lots of money to arrive there. Unfortunately, poor and ignirant proletariat here is white. Don't confuse Africans with Afroamericans.
This is either a funny joke, or some impressive self delusion. Spelling 'ignorant' as 'ignirant' was the most mind bending, ironic, and hilarious part. Cheers!
 
Old 03-19-2014, 12:32 PM
 
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Reluctantly, most North Africans and Arabs look down upon black people...
Reluctantly?
 
Old 03-19-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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What is the point of this thread? I think there are way more Africans in France & UK than in Spain because of the languages. The only Spanish speaking African country is Equatorial Guinea. So........????


From the moment they enter into Schengen area they are not in Spain, but in the EEC.
 
Old 03-19-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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And many of those legal entrants obviously end up staying. Now this is where it gets interesting. There is no point in blaming the entrants as obviously it is the Spanish authorities that don't really enforce the EU-wide immigration laws by preventing overstaying.
Successful societies never adopt the tact of blaming the law enforcers for crime. Excusing lawbreakers for responsibility is symptom of a sick, dying society. Europe didn't become what it is by giving people with no respect for the law and borders a pass. The authorities do what they can with the money they are allotted. For every border violator whose family requires tax money, less money is available to enforce immigration laws. Your reasoning is self serving, simplistic and flawed.

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And let's face it, Spain has had a very low birth rate for decades now, the foreign population was just about 2% 15 years ago. That is way too little, it was time for some fresh blood
Why is a foreign population of 2 percent way too little? This is a vey anti-Spanish view. Why are they obligated to accommodate a higher percentage of foreigners?

Yes, Africa is teeming with fresh blood and for some reason they keep producing fresh blood without the ability to feed it or give it a decent life. Europeans don't behave in this manner, which is a large part of the reason why European societies work and African societies tend to stay poor. Why should Europe accept people with such irresponsible, prolific breeding habits? Africans have almost the entire resource rich continent of Africa to make a life in and build their own Europe. The fact that they refuse to do this does not obligate a much smaller Europe to take them in. The result has been and will continue to be increased ethnic conflict and an increased breakdown in democracy as different groups demand conflicting accommodations and social models. Why should Europe invite this strife into their home? They don't deserve it, as there isn't a continent that does more for the rest of the world. Let's see what these migrants can do with the vast jewel of Africa before they are given a place in Europe.
 
Old 03-19-2014, 06:46 PM
 
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Wrong, North Sudan is Islamic and Arab, white, the southern part is African and animist.
White? lol clearly history isn't your strong suit. Black and Arab are not mutually exclusive terms. You can be an Afro Arab just like you can be an Afro Latino. Sudanese Arabs are actually Arabized Nubians and other indigenous ethnic groups. North Africans are Arabized Berbers, but there are "native African" populations in North Africa like the Toubou, Haratine, Gnouwa, and many who have assimilated into the general Berber population. The Sahara is an artificial invisible line, you can find different types of people on both sides.

Thousands of Spanish and Portuguese immigrants are moving to Morocco, Angola, and Mozambique for employment. I don't get the hypocrisy.
 
Old 03-19-2014, 06:56 PM
 
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Successful societies never adopt the tact of blaming the law enforcers for crime. Excusing lawbreakers for responsibility is symptom of a sick, dying society. Europe didn't become what it is by giving people with no respect for the law and borders a pass. The authorities do what they can with the money they are allotted. For every border violator whose family requires tax money, less money is available to enforce immigration laws. Your reasoning is self serving, simplistic and flawed.



Why is a foreign population of 2 percent way too little? This is a vey anti-Spanish view. Why are they obligated to accommodate a higher percentage of foreigners?

Yes, Africa is teeming with fresh blood and for some reason they keep producing fresh blood without the ability to feed it or give it a decent life. Europeans don't behave in this manner, which is a large part of the reason why European societies work and African societies tend to stay poor. Why should Europe accept people with such irresponsible, prolific breeding habits? Africans have almost the entire resource rich continent of Africa to make a life in and build their own Europe. The fact that they refuse to do this does not obligate a much smaller Europe to take them in. The result has been and will continue to be increased ethnic conflict and an increased breakdown in democracy as different groups demand conflicting accommodations and social models. Why should Europe invite this strife into their home? They don't deserve it, as there isn't a continent that does more for the rest of the world. Let's see what these migrants can do with the vast jewel of Africa before they are given a place in Europe.
So much stupidity and ignorance all in one post. How dare you demonize and dehumanize African people when Europeans and white Americans go into Africa and other parts of the world destroying local economies, destabilizing governments, sponsoring terrorism and funding coups and dictators.

You want Africans out of Europe? Tell Africom, IMF, World Bank, western oil and mining companies, fake western " NGOs", to get the hell out Africa and leave the people alone. Stay out of the pockets and the ballot boxes of African people and you will see a mass exodus from Europe back to Africa.
 
Old 03-19-2014, 07:08 PM
 
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So much stupidity and ignorance all in one post. How dare you demonize and dehumanize African people when Europeans and white Americans go into Africa and other parts of the world destroying local economies, destabilizing governments, sponsoring terrorism and funding coups and dictators.

You want Africans out of Europe? Tell Africom, IMF, World Bank, western oil and mining companies, fake western " NGOs", to get the hell out Africa and leave the people alone. Stay out of the pockets and the ballot boxes of African people and you will see a mass exodus from Europe back to Africa.
Exactly, lol. Not to mention the whole "Europeans don't do this" as if the mass migration of Europeans to nearly every corner of the earth is coincidental. Or as if every country in Europe is flourishing. My city is FULL of young (and bitter) illegal Spaniards, Italians, Russians and Europeans of other extraction, working in bars and such because there isn't crap for them to do back home.
 
Old 03-19-2014, 07:12 PM
 
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So much stupidity and ignorance all in one post. How dare you demonize and dehumanize African people when Europeans and white Americans go into Africa and other parts of the world destroying local economies, destabilizing governments, sponsoring terrorism and funding coups and dictators.

You want Africans out of Europe? Tell Africom, IMF, World Bank, western oil and mining companies, fake western " NGOs", to get the hell out Africa and leave the people alone. Stay out of the pockets and the ballot boxes of African people and you will see a mass exodus from Europe back to Africa.
Exactly. It is interesting how much Europeans complain about the flow of people into their countries, yet they are silent about their money grubby businesses, banks, factories, institutions etc... taking advantage of the poverty and corruption in developing countries to profit and make bank.
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