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Old 01-10-2014, 01:33 AM
 
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I wish the US and Russian governments would get along
I wish they had normal relations of the countries that respect each other and try to understand each other. It's not so easy.
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:39 AM
 
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Politics and everyday life. A German view of Poland and Russia
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:51 AM
 
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"here have been no crucial changes in the opinions on how the Polish
state works in the last years. Half of the respondents, similar
to previous years, think that there is corruption in Poland (50%), and one third that
the bureaucracy makes it difficult to get things done (29%). At the same
time more Germans than before claim the Polish economy is developing
well (40%) and that there is a good organization of work (15%).

The picture of Russia is worse than that of Poland. According to 82% of
the respondents there is corruption in Russia and nearly two thirds (62%)
think the Russian bureaucracy makes it difficult to get things done. Only
9% of those asked share the opinion that the democracy in Russia is
similar to that in Western Europe and that there is good work
organization."

What?! Only six more percents of Germans believe that Poland has a good organization of work comparably to Russia, in spite of all the freedom and democracy in Poland?
Lol, leave it up to Polish authors to create a rosy picture for themselves))))
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:14 AM
 
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Young Germans and Poles know each the much better than Russians and Germans.

I hope Bideshi will tell us what he found.
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Old 01-10-2014, 04:36 AM
 
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skiffrace

About Ukraine. Look at this:
Myths of National Consolidation, the Holodomor, and the Holocaust: A Response to Roman Serbyn | Current Politics in Ukraine

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Russia industry was build by foreign engineers
Yes. And by Russians.
This German historian describes it pretty well:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanne_Schattenberg

These people were working for the country. Some of them might hate Stalin. And so do I. Their lives were hard, so hard that it's difficult to imagine now.

And so were Russian soldiers. They were fighting for their country. Hitler wanted to kill and enslave us. He lost. We celebrate this, not something else.

And what was done to the legacy of these people? One forum member described it pretty well:

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takeo3
tycoons sucked the blood from the Russian economy and ut the money on swiss and British (and other) accounts. That's common knowledge in Russia. As I proved during the Yeltsin years Russia was in a giant recession, people lost all their saving money, mafia gangs ruled the economy and there were lots of murders, also all indicators of living standard plumetted

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Old 01-10-2014, 05:46 AM
 
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In fact, if you look long and hard, you will find awful deeds in the history of virtually any nation. Let's take the peaceful and prosperous Sweden, for example. Does anybody remember that Swedes invaded, burned, raped and devastated Poland in the 1655-1660? Or that they did the same thing to Russia in 1720?
In 1719 and 1720 Sweden was busy defending themselves when Russia burned down just about every city on the east coast.
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Old 01-10-2014, 06:00 AM
 
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Yes. That war was hard. But that's all in the past. I hope to visit Sweden someday and believe that it's one of the best countries in the world.

I don't understand why risotto and skifracce are still in the Cold War. I believe that people in my country,the younger ones like me, aren't interested in Cold War history. All we want is rich and good life. We don't want a dictator, but we don't want the mess as in the 90s. And it was the mess indeed.

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Old 01-10-2014, 06:58 AM
 
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Russians want to be in easy circumstances, to be comfortably off or to be middle-class.
They want quite and good life. Some have nostalgia for Brezhnev.
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Brezhnev's USSR is best remembered for stability in prices and income
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_of_Leonid_Brezhnev

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Old 01-10-2014, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Paris
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Please note that this thread is about the opinion of Germans about Russians. Way off topic posts will be deleted.
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Old 01-10-2014, 07:33 AM
 
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^ Yes. I have to stop. Ok.
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