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Old 09-17-2014, 08:34 PM
 
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Spanish people like tacos and other spicy foods and Portuguese people like milder foods.
Huh???? You aren't confusing Spanish and Mexican, are you? Very few, if any, Spanish dishes have spices in them

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He is the ultimate self-hating Latin American I've ever seen
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Old 09-18-2014, 03:58 AM
 
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Both are very touristy and are close linguistically and culturally.Both had dictators doing well till the mid 70's and both are debt laden

The US is debt laden, not Spain.
As to dictators, I don't remember any.
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Old 09-18-2014, 10:58 AM
 
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The US is debt laden, not Spain.
As to dictators, I don't remember any.
Franco in Spain (where the royal family even had to flee, and they lived in Cascais, Portugal near Lisbon for like a decade or so) and Salazar in Portugal
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Old 09-18-2014, 01:53 PM
 
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We get it, you're one of those Northern Europe obsessed Americans
I stand corrected, I was wrong, apparently Repubocrat is not not American, he's a Brazilian that emigrated to the US and become an ultra libertarian/conservative that has an extreme hatred of anything even remotely resembling liberalism.

There's also a certain subset of Brazilians that hate and blame Portugal for all of Brazil's woes and difficulties and it looks like he's one of those as he bashes Portugal any chance he gets.

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Old 09-20-2014, 01:04 AM
 
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The US is debt laden, not Spain.
As to dictators, I don't remember any.
List of countries by external debt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Spain has a higher external debt as percentage of GDP than the US.

External debt = the total public and private debt owed to nonresidents repayable in internationally accepted currencies, goods, or services.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:33 AM
 
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I stand corrected, I was wrong, apparently Repubocrat is not not American, he's a Brazilian that emigrated to the US and become an ultra libertarian/conservative that has an extreme hatred of anything even remotely resembling liberalism.

There's also a certain subset of Brazilians that hate and blame Portugal for all of Brazil's woes and difficulties and it looks like he's one of those as he bashes Portugal any chance he gets.
I love the idea of this Brazilian masquerading as a gun-crazy redneck teabagger like a real-life Uncle Ruckus.
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Old 09-21-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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Franco in Spain (where the royal family even had to flee, and they lived in Cascais, Portugal near Lisbon for like a decade or so) and Salazar in Portugal

The royal family fled because leftists/republicants wanted to cut their neck in 1931. Franco was not a dictator.
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Old 09-21-2014, 06:08 PM
 
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The US is debt laden, not Spain.
As to dictators, I don't remember any.
External debt = Public debt+Private debt.
Public (government) debt makes up about 98% of total external debt, private debt is miniscule.
The US is NOT debt laden, Its debt is average in size compared to most countries in the world.
In fact:
Most developed countries run a high Public debt I.e. Japan running at over 226% of total GDP.
Most underdeveloped countries run a low Public debt I.e. Liberia running at about 3% of total GDP.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...cam&rank=46#es

The debt "crisis" is really a political manufactured scare tactic.

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Old 09-22-2014, 03:04 AM
 
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According to the IMF, a number of countries face heavy debt burden, such as Buthan (an estimated 100% of GDP in 2014,) Eritrea (123%,) Grenada (112%,) Jamaica (139%,) Lebanon (136%,) Maldives (122%,) Singapore (101%,) Saint Kitts and Nevis (133%,) Sudan (115%,) and the United States (114%.) (Spain is 105, but the country is not in crisis anymore and Chinese don't control public debt).

I'm citing countries that according to the IMF, could face problems in the future. Not citing Japan, that traditionally always had a very high heavy debt.

Plus, "private debt" in the US is atrocious, trillions, plus held in not very friendly hand. Those countries can influence in the sovereignity of the US (and the western world) by flooding t bills.
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Old 09-22-2014, 06:45 PM
 
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According to the IMF, a number of countries face heavy debt burden, such as Buthan (an estimated 100% of GDP in 2014,) Eritrea (123%,) Grenada (112%,) Jamaica (139%,) Lebanon (136%,) Maldives (122%,) Singapore (101%,) Saint Kitts and Nevis (133%,) Sudan (115%,) and the United States (114%.) (Spain is 105, but the country is not in crisis anymore and Chinese don't control public debt).

I'm citing countries that according to the IMF, could face problems in the future. Not citing Japan, that traditionally always had a very high heavy debt.

Plus, "private debt" in the US is atrocious, trillions, plus held in not very friedly hnand Those countries can influence in the sovereignity of the US (and the western world) by flooding t bills.
Your post is too convoluted, It would take me forever trying to explain Economics to you.
First off: The IMF would be the last institution to get reference from, since they are too tied up with the banking system and wall street, the IMF looks out for their interests not the whole country's interests.
Secondly: Developed and highly industrialized countries like Japan and the US can handle high debt, as Japan has been doing for the last 20 years with NO problem.
Small and less developed countries can not handle high debt, since their industry and their human resources does not allow it. That's is why most of them run low debt.

Then you say: "private debt" in the US is atrocious, plus held in not very friendly hand.

Private debt is held by banks mainly. Private debt can be student loans, credit card loans, car loans, mortgage loans. I do agree that banks do not have friendly hands when you can not pay them. However they can always get a government bailout and do not have to pay it back.
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