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Yup, it's the legacy that is passed on by tradition via the believers in the story of the institution. I can see where it will motivate a bright and talented kid that wants to be part of something. It's what may be missing in other countries.
Yup, it's the legacy that is passed on by tradition via the believers in the story of the institution. I can see where it will motivate a bright and talented kid that wants to be part of something. It's what may be missing in other countries.
didn't many other countries started doing much better in figure skating when many soviet trainers moved west, I wonder how much influence they have had on the sport in the west. As well as in other areas such as gymnastics and ballet etc.
didn't many other countries started doing much better in figure skating when many soviet trainers moved west, I wonder how much influence they have had on the sport in the west. As well as in other areas such as gymnastics and ballet etc.
Yes, these trainers became available for the Western ice-skate dancers ( and ballet dancers.)
Which (I am sure) improved their choreography.
However the "story-telling" part is not something you can teach I think.
didn't many other countries started doing much better in figure skating when many soviet trainers moved west, I wonder how much influence they have had on the sport in the west. As well as in other areas such as gymnastics and ballet etc.
I think the legacy Russia has gives them an edge along with Russias high cultural standards. Russia is not "progressive" as the west is. Old ways still matter there, Russians are surrounded by history and a baby taking their first steps on the street may be doing it on a surface that has been there for hundreds of years. Aspects such as this may seem irrelvant but taken as a whole and applied to a learning child gives them pride and motivation, goals and a reason to strive for something. Surrounded by the right people in combination with a childs need to please those around them you get a great result.
I have not seen any good result here in America when it comes to stuff like this but then Tonya Harding is the only American skater I know of, i never see anything in the sports section, it's just not as popular here I guess. Ballet is good but not up to par with others and most of the actors seem to be foreigners.
It's why I think American culture is pretty low. I think garbage in and garbage out is the rule here.
I think the legacy Russia has gives them an edge along with Russias high cultural standards. Russia is not "progressive" as the west is. Old ways still matter there, Russians are surrounded by history and a baby taking their first steps on the street may be doing it on a surface that has been there for hundreds of years. Aspects such as this may seem irrelvant but taken as a whole and applied to a learning child gives them pride and motivation, goals and a reason to strive for something. Surrounded by the right people in combination with a childs need to please those around them you get a great result.
I have not seen any good result here in America when it comes to stuff like this but then Tonya Harding is the only American skater I know of, i never see anything in the sports section, it's just not as popular here I guess. Ballet is good but not up to par with others and most of the actors seem to be foreigners.
It's why I think American culture is pretty low. I think garbage in and garbage out is the rule here.
I think a lot of people don't realize just how young the majority of Russia is, quite comparable to the age of American cities.
15 largest cities of Russia
Kazan: 1005
Moscow: 1147
Nizhny Novgorod: 1221
Ufa: 1574
Voronezh: 1585
Samara: 1586
Volgograd: 1589
Krasnoyarsk: 1628
St. Petersburg: 1703
Yekaterinburg: 1723
Perm: 1723
Chelyabinsk: 1736
Rostov-on-Don: 1749
Omsk: 1782 Novosibirsk: 1893
Median: 1628
15 largest cities of the US
New York: 1624
Boston: 1630
Philadelphia: 1682
Detroit: 1701
San Francisco: 1776
Chicago: 1780
Los Angeles: 1781
Washington: 1790
Miami: 1825
Atlanta: 1837
Houston: 1837
Dallas: 1841
Seattle: 1851
Phoenix: 1867 Orlando: 1875
Median: 1790
So although Russia has some ancient medieval cities, the typical major Russian city is only 162 years younger than the typical major American city, and even then Russia only has 3 major cities built prior to the discovery of the new world, and only half of them were built prior to New York City's foundation.
I think a lot of people don't realize just how young the majority of Russia is, quite comparable to the age of American cities.
15 largest cities of Russia
Kazan: 1005
Moscow: 1147
Nizhny Novgorod: 1221
Ufa: 1574
Voronezh: 1585
Samara: 1586
Volgograd: 1589
Krasnoyarsk: 1628
St. Petersburg: 1703
Yekaterinburg: 1723
Perm: 1723
Chelyabinsk: 1736
Rostov-on-Don: 1749
Omsk: 1782 Novosibirsk: 1893
Median: 1628
15 largest cities of the US
New York: 1624
Boston: 1630
Philadelphia: 1682
Detroit: 1701
San Francisco: 1776
Chicago: 1780
Los Angeles: 1781
Washington: 1790
Miami: 1825
Atlanta: 1837
Houston: 1837
Dallas: 1841
Seattle: 1851
Phoenix: 1867 Orlando: 1875
Median: 1790
So although Russia has some ancient medieval cities, the typical major Russian city is only 162 years younger than the typical major American city, and even then Russia only has 3 major cities built prior to the discovery of the new world, and only half of them were built prior to New York City's foundation.
You need to go back to the cities of the "Golden ring" and such, then you will understand the major difference with the US.
It's not the "largest" cities that count, because most of them are not Russian legacy, but Soviet legacy, really..
You need to go back to the cities of the "Golden ring" and such, then you will understand the major difference with the US.
It's not the "largest" cities that count, because most of them are not Russian legacy, but Soviet legacy, really..
I’m well aware, but most Russians don’t live in the Golden ring, otherwise you should also consider all the colonial villages that were built in the 1600s that dot the eastern seaboard.
On top of that Veliky Novgorod is first mentioned in the 800s, compare that to London which was built by the romans in AD 47, and Paris was founded by the Romans in 52 BC. Most Russians are living in cities that are much closer in age to those in the US than to Western Europe.
I’m well aware, but most Russians don’t live in the Golden ring, otherwise you should also consider all the colonial villages that were built in the 1600s that dot the eastern seaboard.
On top of that Veliky Novgorod is first mentioned in the 800s, compare that to London which was built by the romans in AD 47, and Paris was founded by the Romans in 52 BC. Most Russians are living in cities that are much closer in age to those in the US than to Western Europe.
Russians don't live in the "Golden ring," but these are the roots of their history.
Which is hundreds and hundreds of years - precisely as Scrat has put it. While "colonial villages" were simply an offshoot of the British Empire - it's not an "American history" yet.
But comparably to Western Europe, Russia of course is a much younger nation.
Russians don't live in the "Golden ring," but these are the roots of their history.
Which is hundreds and hundreds of years - precisely as Scrat has put it. While "colonial villages" were simply an offshoot of the British Empire - it's not an "American history" yet.
But comparably to Western Europe, Russia of course is a much younger nation.
can’t the same be said for Russia, anything before the Tsardom of Russia’s foundation in 1547, was not “Russian history” yet, and that it was just an offshoot of the Kieven Rus? Granted 1547 is still considerably older than 1776. It just seems a bit ironic when Russians put down the US for it’s lack of history, when most Russians are living in cities that are not much older, particularly their “cultural capital” St. Petersburg. Which btw Benjamin Franklin was only born 3 years after its foundation.
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