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Before it was part of the Russian Empire, it was part of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. Stalin joined Transnistria to Bessarabia in 1940, in exchange giving Budjak region (which is historically Moldovan) to Ukraine. In all of its 2000+ year history, Transnistria region was only part of Romania for a short time during 1941-1944 when Romania was occyping it as part of Axis powers with Nazi Germany.
Historic Bessarabia = Moldova - Transnistria + Budjak/Bugeac
So, does this give Russia the right to now redraw the map?
You should read more. Not all the moldavia was integrate into romania. The part who correspond to the actual Transnistria wasn't!
"The Moldavian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (Moldavian/Romanian: Република Аутономэ Советикэ Cочиалистэ Молдовеняскэ, Republica Autonomă Sovietică Socialistă Moldovenească), shortened to Moldavian ASSR, was an autonomous republic of the Ukrainian SSR between 12 October 1924 and 2 August 1940, encompassing modern Transnistria (now, de jure, in Moldova, de facto, a breakaway state) and a number of territories that are now part of the Ukraine."
In the 19th century Transnistrian territories belonged to Kherson province. Sure, there is a sence to give it to Ukraine, but I'm not sure will Russians there like it or not. Besides, it means to change the borders again.
It's more reasonable to re-integrate it to Moldova with the guarantees that Moldova will stay an independent state.
To give it to Russia is impossible on the basis of geography. Or we should annex Southern Ukraine too. I don't like this idea. The only disputed territory in my opinion is the peninsula. Other - East, South - 100 percent must belong to Ukraine.
As far as I understand CARPATIAN, his idea is to:
- let Ukraine to take Transnistria
- ask Ukraine to return some places in Bukovina to Romania
- if people in Moldova would like it - to re-integrate it with Romania.
The idea is interesting, but I'm not sure is it real or not.
Besides, if such changes between Ukraine and Romania will be possible, why not a change with Russia - the peninsula (to recognize that it's ours) for money compensation?
Last edited by Muscovite; 01-22-2015 at 03:39 PM..
It was my impression that Transinstria region was never part of Bessarabia historically. Historical Bessarabia is the land west and southwest of the Dniester. Transistria is the land to the east of the Dniester. Crucially, it was never part of Romania between 1918-1944 like the rest of Moldova.
Transnistria contained a considerable population of Romanians, as well as Romanian toponymy (because of natural migration) and the sovietics, trying to show consequence with the retrace of borders to correspond to ethnic composition, attributed it to Moldova.
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Or it could indicate that Moldova (and the ethnic Moldovans) are very Russia-dominated. Which doesn't tell us much about how they really feel.
I would compare with the situation of Hungarians in Romania, especially those in the majoritary-Hungarian enclave in the middle of the country, called Szekely Land. A decade ago only few Szekely Hungarians could speak decent Romanian. Now many of them switch to using Romanian as their first language, being more used with it because of television, communication with Romanians etc.
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Bender belonged to Romania in 1918-1944.
Some other territories - not. They were in Soviet Ukraine.
In 19th century Trasnistria belonged to two provinces: of Kherson and of Bessarabia.
Bender or Tighina is situated on the western bank of Dniester, so bassically is not Transnistria but Moldavia. Bender is situated across the river from Tiraspol, second largest city of Moldova and formal capital of Transnistria. Having a Russian majority, Bender declared independence from Moldavia and is now controled by the illegal army of Transnistria.
What i read moldavians and romanians are both interest by an unification.
I think the best is transnistria became an independant and multicultural state and moldavia join romania. It's probably the best way to avoid a lot of complications.
citoyen
A lot of them already have Moldavian passports - and work for the EU on that basis.
So, I'm not sure if they really want independence - or they want to take money from everybody, not paying the taxes. I guess the last.
citoyen
A lot of them already have Moldavian passports - and work for the EU on that basis.
So, I'm not sure if they really want independence - or they want to take money from everybody, not paying the taxes. I guess the last.
So the problem is only russian army and a mafia who want to keep the place under his power?
citoyen
Well, only the army is ours, the mafia I guess is the local one.
Sure, people get used to such a "grey" situation and perhaps it's comfortable for them, so I'm afraid in a way a whole population is a little bit "mafia", because they all feel that's ok to get money here and there and do not choose, where they belong.
And army... well, I just want them to be ok, and to let others live as they want.
I guess, my approach is philistine...I'm tired of all that geopolitics.
Last edited by Muscovite; 01-22-2015 at 04:34 PM..
It's called Moldova. Your made-up name is used in Russia to try and make claims for invasions.
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