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Old 04-15-2015, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Vik
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That seems unlikely since the overall violent crime rate in the USA is 2x that of the worst European country (UK) and 5x that of most countries in Europe. In the bad neighborhoods in the USA the crime rates are more like 15x that of anywhere in Europe. More people have been killed by gunfire in Chicago than in Afghanistan.
Is that a fact? On what do you base this on? 1930`s Chicago gang wars?

How do you explain this:

Violent Crime in the US Has Declined Rapidly. What Happened?

or this:

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. | Daily Mail Online
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Old 04-15-2015, 08:32 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Daily Mail isn't a good source to say Britain is more violent than South Africa or the USA is RIDICULOUS. You only have to open your eyes to see that.
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Old 04-15-2015, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Polderland
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You seriously wanna say the US is less violent then Europe? Haha, well you'd have to come up with a better source then that before I believe that lol.
You really believe this? I consider this the same kind of "reliable source" as the one that said half of France is ruled by Sharia law and has muslim no go zones
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Vik
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You seriously wanna say the US is less violent then Europe? Haha, well you'd have to come up with a better source then that before I believe that lol.
You really believe this? I consider this the same kind of "reliable source" as the one that said half of France is ruled by Sharia law and has muslim no go zones
Depends on the crime. Some areas in Europe are overrepresented in certain types of crime. Say Sweden with rape. (why is this?) Murder is higher is the US than in most of Europe.

But robbery, assault and burglary is more frequent per 100 000 population in the UK than the US. (why is this?)

http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crim...ecdjan2012.pdf

Or don`t you want to believe those numbers either?

Of course it is very common to generalize that the US is a way much more dangerous place than Europe.

Again, it is hard to compare Detroit with Paris.

Point is: the crime rate in the US is on a decline...probably because they are locking up the criminals.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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Europe has absolutely *no* idea how to handle integrating minorities. While there are ethnic neighborhoods and ghettos in the US, they've got NOTHING on how it is in Europe.

Immigration is at an early stage here so i think it's too soon to judge, with time things will improve, many are integrating well but that doesn't seem to hold true for everyone. On average they tend to commit more crimes than locals but that can be explained by their social position, in fact most of them are still part of the lower classes and haven't had enough time to move up the social scale.

Could you explain why you think so? Have you even been to Europe, if so how can you judge the situation here?

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Some areas in Europe are overrepresented in certain types of crime. Say Sweden with rape. (why is this?)
Rape is perceived and defined very differently in Sweden than it is elsewhere, the definition of a certain type of crime is very different in each country that's why it's difficult to compare anything except murder which is the same everywhere.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:06 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Immigration is at an early stage here so i think it's too soon to judge, with time things will improve, many are integrating well but that doesn't seem to hold true for everyone. On average they tend to commit more crimes than locals but that can be explained by their social position, in fact most of them are still part of the lower classes and haven't had enough time to move up the social scale.

Could you explain why you think so? Have you even been to Europe, if so how can you judge the situation here?
Their ''social disposition'' is the main reason why they commit more crime NOT because they're not Italian.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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Their ''social disposition'' is the main reason why they commit more crime NOT because they're not Italian.
That's what i said, i never blamed anyone for their culture or nationality, luckily we are managing to avoid the phenomenon of ethnic ghettos.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:13 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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That's what i said, i never blamed anyone for their culture or nationality, luckily we are managing to avoid the phenomenon of ethnic ghettos.
Yeah I know I said it for all the racists and xenophobes out there.
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Old 04-18-2015, 06:00 AM
 
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Unfortunately, racism I's alive and well everywhere.
It is also VERY hard to be a white person in this day and age with all the stick and hassle we get. I always feel like I am walking on egg shells and that I owe black people something.
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Old 04-18-2015, 06:58 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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It is also VERY hard to be a white person in this day and age with all the stick and hassle we get. I always feel like I am walking on egg shells and that I owe black people something.
You should be Black and see how hard White people get it in this day and age. LOL...
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