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View Poll Results: Do you think the migrant crisis will cause the cancellation of the Schengen area?
Yes 17 51.52%
No 16 48.48%
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Old 09-09-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: In transition
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Something I'm thinking about given there seems to be a very disorganized system now for handling the migrants and some countries are being a lot more burdened than others...
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Old 09-09-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Schengen? No. Dublin? Definitely.

Schengen has little to do with the current crisis.
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Old 09-09-2015, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Schengen is awesome. Europe should keep it till the end of time.
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Old 09-09-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Schengen is awesome. Europe should keep it till the end of time.
Schengen is indeed awesome, most people just don't know that Schengen has nothing to do with the current refugee crisis.
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Old 09-09-2015, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Estonia
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Schengen is indeed awesome, most people just don't know that Schengen has nothing to do with the current refugee crisis.
You mean that if there was no Schengen those migrants would still push through?
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:21 PM
 
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You mean that if there was no Schengen those migrants would still push through?
Yes they would or countries would have to build high walls on their borders. Frontiers always had been uncontrollable in Europe.. But for the islands or the northern countries.
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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You mean that if there was no Schengen those migrants would still push through?
There are already plenty of controls anyway.

People who have managed to cross thousands of miles risking their lives and with nothing to lose will not stop if someone says they are not allowed...
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:29 PM
 
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Schengen is indeed awesome, most people just don't know that Schengen has nothing to do with the current refugee crisis.
Probably because that statement isn't true. Schengen has a great deal to do with the current refugee crisis.
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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People who have managed to cross thousands of miles risking their lives and with nothing to lose will not stop if someone says they are not allowed...
Yet amazingly that is exactly what happens everywhere else on earth. There are no more hordes of migrants in Singapore, or Australia, or in Florida, or in Hong Kong, or even on the U.S./Mexican border, yet all those rich locales are very close to poor, violent locales with desperate migrants.

If you make it clear that passage is unwelcome, and you make it clear you will be sent back home, then people stop coming. Merkel is the one encouraging the people to come; if she didn't roll out the welcome mat, they would stop coming, and they would stop dying en route.
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Well it is a bit harder to reach the US or Australia, physically.

I mean, you could walk from Afghanistan to Germany, there is no physical barrier.

Migration in Europe is nothing new, nobody waited for Merkel to welcome people.

Also, you have a union of countries which have the greatest difficulty to agree on basic things, and then you have an intense network of people who make a living out of transfering people, making them believe that the UK or Germany are paradise, taking all of their money in the process and making them travel in the most inhuman conditions.

Moreover, the collapse of Lybia (thanks Europe) has not helped the situation. There is no vacuum where everyone is free to go through and reach Europe by sea.

Migration is not going to stop now, Europe has just realized that they need to control it instead of being submerged by it. I think it is a step forward.
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