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yes Im am still looking into other EU countries like Netherlands, even Italy. So much to consider. I have looked into schools to finish my BS in New Zealand as well but island countries have some more negative factors than I'm willing to deal with. As for leaving Native community here. I don't belong to any in this region so I've essentially left mine behind decades ago. I feel more isolated in the Southwest than I did overseas. FYI tribes are very insular communities and if you don't belong to them you never belong and thats fine. I don't share anything in common with other Natives where we live (language, traditions, religion ect...) We moved here to get away from the crime and traffic in Miami. So I'll continue my search and I will do my best to reintegrate in somewhere in Europe.
I've been thinking. Are you aware that Austria came close to electing something like a neo-Nazi President some years ago? Fortunately, he didn't win, but the vote was expected to be close enough that there was real fear that he might win. This got me thinking about Germany's recent problems, and how nobody can anticipate what the result of any electoral backlash against Angela Merkel might be in the next election cycle. It's great to have a head start on the language, but you wouldn't want to find yourself having jumped from the frying pan into the fire. I'm starting to think it could be a very good thing that you've broadened your search/research. Dutch, at least, is a Germanic language. Holland is windy, though, which increases the chill factor in winter, and it's not going to do well as the sea levels rise, either.
I've been thinking. Are you aware that Austria came close to electing something like a neo-Nazi President some years ago? Fortunately, he didn't win, but the vote was expected to be close enough that there was real fear that he might win. This got me thinking about Germany's recent problems, and how nobody can anticipate what the result of any electoral backlash against Angela Merkel might be in the next election cycle. It's great to have a head start on the language, but you wouldn't want to find yourself having jumped from the frying pan into the fire. I'm starting to think it could be a very good thing that you've broadened your search/research. Dutch, at least, is a Germanic language. Holland is windy, though, which increases the chill factor in winter, and it's not going to do well as the sea levels rise, either.
So much to think about!
funny you should mention Merkel. I was just showing my husband news videos of the growing far right movement in Germany against the chancellor's immigration policies. I also saw how crazy the refugee problem has gotten in Sweden and in Belgium. The biggest backlash is against Muslims but that dose not mean they won't extend their xenophobia to anyone of color I'm sure. What can I tell you? If I really don't have a viable plan I would probably go back to Miami. At least no one speaks English there and NO ONE is actually from Miami. All the "Americans" booked it out of town back when hurricane Andrew blew over. The increase in Haitians and South Americans probably drove them away. Now there are a ridiculous amount of Europeans, Russians, and Chinese buying up property. It's a weird parallel Universe unto itself there and completely separate in a way from the rest of that obnoxious red state. So I keep searching not for a perfect country, just a better circumstance. I really have low tolerance for this redneck ****. Then again some people have told me to consider Portlandia.
I've been thinking. Are you aware that Austria came close to electing something like a neo-Nazi President some years ago? Fortunately, he didn't win, but the vote was expected to be close enough that there was real fear that he might win. This got me thinking about Germany's recent problems, and how nobody can anticipate what the result of any electoral backlash against Angela Merkel might be in the next election cycle. It's great to have a head start on the language, but you wouldn't want to find yourself having jumped from the frying pan into the fire. I'm starting to think it could be a very good thing that you've broadened your search/research. Dutch, at least, is a Germanic language. Holland is windy, though, which increases the chill factor in winter, and it's not going to do well as the sea levels rise, either.
So much to think about!
I think you should read up on the neo-Nazi President thing before posting nonsense like this on the internet.
25 years ago (time flies) I lived in Germany, so I can't really speak to the current situation in most things, as that was pre-EU. I can tell you that as a white, blonde, well-educated American who speaks fluent German and has some German ancestry, I was treated much more favorably, especially when it came to housing.
I don't know what the rules are nowadays, but in those days it was very common to see apartments and houses for rent with very strict preferences openly advertised in the newspapers. "Professional German couple, non-smoking, childless, well-educated, no smoking, no pets, etc. right in the ads and also at real estate offices."
When I inquired about the criteria of "being German", I was told (in English and in German) "oh, the landlords don't mean you." They just want to keep out "certain other groups, such as coloreds, people who dress in ethnic clothing and don't speak German, etc."
I was welcomed by everyone. No place was off-limits to me. But I "fit in" by virtue of appearance, education and language skills. Also, my then partner was an employed German engineer and he had a very good salary. So we were treated like any other German couple except that some Germans wanted so badly to practice their English on me, that it was hard to keep the conversations in German.
By the way: Employment ads required photos to be attached to resumes, too, which shocked me, as an American.
Now, in 2016, a family of four with only $50,000 savings (as opposed to say, $500,000 savings) would not be considered to be well-funded, as Germany is very expensive and you absolutely must buy health insurance for your entire family. You would have to prove that your income is substantial and that it will continue indefinitely. How can you prove that it will continue and that it is high enough to fully support a family of four and that you will never become a burden to the state? Are your children still school-aged?
Consider that Germany is having the same backlash against non-white foreigners as the U.S. and other "primarily white" countries are. Yes, you will find activists (especially in Berlin) who are working against this and as you pointed out, Germans have a fascination with the American West and that includes Native Americans. When you were there with a German boyfriend, that was different than bringing in an entire family. Whether they want you and your entire Native American family to be their next-door-neighbor is quite another thing entirely. Most families who emigrate still tend to speak their original language (I'm assuming English in your case) and don't care to become fluent in German. Shopkeepers speak entirely in German.
I might be wrong, but since you have not mentioned a major skill that you or your husband is bringing that would be needed in the German workforce and said you would not be working, I don't think you bring enough to the table to be welcomed with open arms. That $50,000 savings would be gone in the blink of an eye.
excellent points. i wanted to say the same thing. basically a wave of right-wing extremism is sweeping across europe too. right now germany is immune, but who knows?
i also lived in germany about 25 years ago (hard to believe. in some ways feels like yesterday) and go back fairly often. i got to speak german very well (akzentfrei i was often told), but i found germans and europeans in general to be very ethnically-conscious in ways americans are not. for example, i grew up in the u.s. but had no idea until i got to germany just how mediterranean i look. it was often pointed out and sometimes degradingly. americans tend to view people along race lines, europeans along ethnic lines. just something for the OP to keep in mind!
I think you should read up on the neo-Nazi President thing before posting nonsense like this on the internet.
Well, it was back in the 90's that the nationalistic party experienced quite a surge at the ballot box that generated a lot of concern, but more recently, they've been gaining support again.
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funny you should mention Merkel. I was just showing my husband news videos of the growing far right movement in Germany against the chancellor's immigration policies. I also saw how crazy the refugee problem has gotten in Sweden and in Belgium. The biggest backlash is against Muslims but that dose not mean they won't extend their xenophobia to anyone of color I'm sure. What can I tell you? If I really don't have a viable plan I would probably go back to Miami. At least no one speaks English there and NO ONE is actually from Miami. All the "Americans" booked it out of town back when hurricane Andrew blew over. The increase in Haitians and South Americans probably drove them away. Now there are a ridiculous amount of Europeans, Russians, and Chinese buying up property. It's a weird parallel Universe unto itself there and completely separate in a way from the rest of that obnoxious red state. So I keep searching not for a perfect country, just a better circumstance. I really have low tolerance for this redneck ****. Then again some people have told me to consider Portlandia.
Thanks for the news from the front in Miami. Weird.
Well, if you're going to consider Portlandia, why leave NM? Except for the water; the NW won't be running out anytime soon. BTW, I recently saw the film about the Seminole aligator-wrestling tribal chair. Quite a guy! I didn't know he was the first one to push the sovereignty envelope in relation to casinos. Fascinating! Historic.
Well, it was back in the 90's that the nationalistic party experienced quite a surge at the ballot box that generated a lot of concern, but more recently, they've been gaining support again.
Again, whom are you calling a neo-Nazi and for what? I'm glad that VdB finally became President and I think that Hofer is a lying bastard. But calling him a neo-Nazi is as inaccurate as calling Trump a neo-Nazi.
I've been thinking. Are you aware that Austria came close to electing something like a neo-Nazi President some years ago? Fortunately, he didn't win, but the vote was expected to be close enough that there was real fear that he might win. This got me thinking about Germany's recent problems, and how nobody can anticipate what the result of any electoral backlash against Angela Merkel might be in the next election cycle. It's great to have a head start on the language, but you wouldn't want to find yourself having jumped from the frying pan into the fire. I'm starting to think it could be a very good thing that you've broadened your search/research. Dutch, at least, is a Germanic language. Holland is windy, though, which increases the chill factor in winter, and it's not going to do well as the sea levels rise, either.
So much to think about!
That is not fear, my dear, that is hope. Between what Trump is going to do in the USA and the rise of men who actually put their own people first - we have much to hope for.
Again, whom are you calling a neo-Nazi and for what? I'm glad that VdB finally became President and I think that Hofer is a lying bastard. But calling him a neo-Nazi is as inaccurate as calling Trump a neo-Nazi.
Well Portlandia I guess markets itself as a very progressive haven. NM is if far from that with the exception of Santa Fe. My only problem with Santa Fe is that it an isolated high dessert town surrounded by excessive poverty and hence a slant for the right because of their struggle to maintain viable employment and a crumbling infrastructure. It make Santa Fe a small bubble but one that is attainable only by the very well to do. For the middle to working class I would say it's limitations are many and additionally if your Native there's an unspoken understanding that this is a city for rich white transplants and the majority Spanish colonial descendants. Most natives don't come into town unless they work here or come to school. We love the the weather and the landscape and the beautiful historical culture but after a couple years here we have taken note of the lack of solidarity among the 3 predominant cultures (Spanish, Pueblo, and White). So we mostly keep to ourselves now and that is very isolating. In Miami the self segregation happens more on a class level rather than race. I say self segregation because they have such a history here that over the years they have all come to accept it quietly and continue to live along side each other but not really integrated. They think they are diverse here but not in anyway does it resemble the spectrum of diversity you have in the West coast or the East coast. The latest politics further divides this state with Natives and Spanish descendants voting on the left and the majority white land owning cattle people and oil people on the right. No good middle ground for me I think.
About the Seminole Chairman James Billie, he had been ousted back in the '90's and now just recently was ousted from office again just a month ago. He is an innovator and trailblazer. Most people don't know but he is the reason other tribes around the country were able to obtain Casinos and other enterprises. Problem is he has a mouth that runs much like Trump's and has a lot of enemies. The Seminole Tribe set precedence for tribes to exert economic sovereignty. Our battles are won in court these days with the backing of investors and a team of lawyers. The state of Florida has only benefited greatly by the revenues that are voluntarily shared with the state by the tribe. A Trump cabinet potentially threatens the ability of our own governments to continue providing equally for each tribal member. Socialism works when a collective effort to make profitable business and distributes that wealth evenly. What we achieved is our collective inheritance. When children of families like the Hiltons or Trump for example collect a salary for their name they call it inheritance , but when Natives who are essentially extended families collect a salary from our own companies critics call it entitlements. I can't tell you how many times random people have come up to us at shoping malls or restaurants and asked how they can marry a Native so they can get "their check". It doesn't work that way! My government doesn't owe you Jack, like your government doesn't feel it owes me. OK enough rant.
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