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Old 10-15-2017, 07:29 AM
 
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I didn’t know there was a far right in Spain. Look at the photo.
Civil war wounds reopened as two sides square up over Catalonia
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Old 10-15-2017, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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As for Germany the maker of this map was quite ignorant. There are many more areas where people feel less German and more regional, linguistically, culturally and historically, just as the other non-brown areas. As if the Pfalz or the two or rather three very distinctive parts of Baden, for example, were more pan 'German' than Swabia or Bavaria.
There are also other problems.

Why is Switzerland one single nation (I'd split it in three for this discussion) whereas Romania and Moldova are separate?
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Old 10-15-2017, 07:47 PM
 
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Kosovo separate from Albania could also be questioned.
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Old 10-15-2017, 07:51 PM
 
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What you said here is pretty senseless. Too many Quebecois nationalist roots in you makes you think that any other region with a separate language is a nation?

There isn't any single nation in Iberia except for Spain and Portugal (obviously) and maybe the Basques who had a really different culture and totally different language (although Navarre is NOT Basque, so the Greater Euskal Herria is false and a cr4p nationalist fake history invented by the ultranationalist Sabino Arana in the early 20th century). Navarra was a kingdom while the Basques weren't, but the Basques really were different than the rest of Iberia. Nowadays most of Basques are not even able to speak Basque and the vast majority are mixed with other Spaniards but anyways that's off topic.


According to you, then all of those are nations, right? Check this:



This map is funny for Spain at least. I understand putting regions which were kingdoms. But what about Cantabria? Rioja? Valencia? Balearic Islands? Murcia?? lol
Who's to say that the number of countries currently in Europe (50) is optimal? Maybe 150 would be better. Or a dozen? Or one?

Anyway it would never get to 150 of course because there is always assimilation, conquests, mergers, etc.

But the status quo is never immutable. In a few hundreds many of the countries we are living in today will no longer exist. Maybe even the concept of a country will no longer exist.
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Old 10-16-2017, 03:38 AM
 
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I didn’t know there was a far right in Spain. Look at the photo.
Civil war wounds reopened as two sides square up over Catalonia


Let's say there's a bigger problem with far left, "anticapitalist" parties, some of them governing cities.
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:39 AM
 
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Who's to say that the number of countries currently in Europe (50) is optimal? Maybe 150 would be better. Or a dozen? Or one?

Anyway it would never get to 150 of course because there is always assimilation, conquests, mergers, etc.

But the status quo is never immutable. In a few hundreds many of the countries we are living in today will no longer exist. Maybe even the concept of a country will no longer exist.


Is not optimal, there far too many countries.
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:54 AM
 
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Why not 10 000 independent states on the Planet? so stupid it is mind-blowing.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:48 AM
 
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Is not optimal, there far too many countries.
yes too many.

This is not bad, plus Norway should merge with Sweden, Denmark with Germany, Belgium with France, Netherlands with Germany, Portugal with Spain. Perfect. Ideally no country should have fewer than 50 million people.

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Old 10-17-2017, 07:13 AM
 
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yes too many.

This is not bad, plus Norway should merge with Sweden, Denmark with Germany, Belgium with France, Netherlands with Germany, Portugal with Spain. Perfect. Ideally no country should have fewer than 50 million people.
Yes, of course. That led to great things over the next four years (and 25 years later), did it not?


I don't see the sheer number of independent countries as the issue, as much as the stability of those states, and also the robustness of the international systems and linkages that exist between them.


A 500-country world could be more stable than a 2-country world.
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:02 AM
 
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Nobody ever thought that Catalan independency was possible, nobody. It was a bluff, a bargaining chip to scare Madrid.
But as Madrid, and Rajoy, don't budge as they know all the antics, here they must increase the affrontery levels.
We'll see what happens on Thursday.
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