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Old 09-20-2018, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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One of the C-D members posted this statement on the Great Debates Forum:
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Originally Posted by Troyfan
Poor in the US is middle-class everywhere else.
By any economic measure our poor are doing better than most of the people in Europe.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/53139765-post29.html

Would you agree with it?
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Brussels
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US middle class is likely to have a bigger house and a bigger car (or cars), and more money. Europe's middle class is likely to work much less and have more leisure time / holidays. I have experienced both systems and I chose to live in Europe as middle class.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Well, member stated that the poor in the US live better than the middle-class in Europe.
He didn't compare middle-class to middle-class.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Near Luxembourg
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Originally Posted by elnina View Post
One of the C-D members posted this statement on the Great Debates Forum:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/53139765-post29.html

Would you agree with it?
What economic measure(s) ?

Revenue?
Net revenue?
Net revenue ppp?
What can the 10% poorer afford weekly to save on a bank account ?
What services can they access? Their life expectancy compared to middle class?
%of them owning their houses?
Blabla

I m curious. If it's metrics about the surface of the house and volume of the engine of the car, they are in a good position indeed.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Europe
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Interesting question, but Germany and Romania are both in EU so it is hard to answer the question
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Plague Island
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Yeah no.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Vienna, Austria
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"The American middle class is smaller than middle classes across Western Europe, but its income is higher"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_class
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by elnina View Post
One of the C-D members posted this statement on the Great Debates Forum:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/53139765-post29.html

Would you agree with it?

I've lived in the U.S. in a poor neighborhood, and I have lived in a mixed working class-middle class neighborhood in Portugal and a middle class neighborhood in Cyprus.

No way.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Originally Posted by elnina View Post
Well, member stated that the poor in the US live better than the middle-class in Europe.
He didn't compare middle-class to middle-class.
I think that is just wishful thinking on the part of the person who made that statement and wants to believe that it's true, and I think that it's the kind of propaganda that should be taken with a pinch of salt.

It's not the first time I've seen or heard a same or similar statement made by uninformed Americans. Most often the statement was made by those whose own status was that of untraveled poor or very low middle class or of otherwise (as quoted from that person's full post) "low social desirability". Perhaps a poor person making an attempt at misguided nationalistic snobbery and propaganda?

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Old 09-20-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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US middle class is likely to have a bigger house and a bigger car (or cars), and more money. Europe's middle class is likely to work much less and have more leisure time / holidays. I have experienced both systems and I chose to live in Europe as middle class.

This. I guess lower income people in the US are more likely to work 60 hours a week 30 miles from home whereas europeans would have a part-time job and make ends meet with some welfare money and family help, not having enough money for a car anyway.
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