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When I was in Krakow, Poland I noticed that most young people did not attend church on sunday or any of that silly old school nonsense.
Different story in American were most people attend church, especially in redneck/dixieland/bible belt backwards southern states were Trump and Mike Pence are bigger than Jesus.
When I was in Krakow, Poland I noticed that most young people did not attend church on sunday or any of that silly old school nonsense.
Different story in American were most people attend church, especially in redneck/dixieland/bible belt backwards southern states were Trump and Mike Pence are bigger than Jesus.
And Europeans call us Ugly Americans. Maybe you should look in the mirror.
My Dil is from Poland and her family did go to church weekly before Covid and now watch it on zoom. While it was important for her to be married in the Catholic Church she rarely goes to church. The younger generation is more educated than previously so I think it contributes to less belief. People in Poland aren’t happy about some of their rights being taken away especially abortion.
My Dil is from Poland and her family did go to church weekly before Covid and now watch it on zoom. While it was important for her to be married in the Catholic Church she rarely goes to church. The younger generation is more educated than previously so I think it contributes to less belief. People in Poland aren’t happy about some of their rights being taken away especially abortion.
Abortion has a funny history in Eastern European countries.
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Despite a widespread and ongoing perception of the ‘socialist bloc’ as a homogenous entity, demographers and sociologists had demonstrated by the late 1980s that the nations involved did not have uniform reproductive and population policies. While several countries, including Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Yugoslavia, followed the USSR’s lead in the mid-1950s and liberalised abortion laws, others continued to strictly limit access to terminations. Legal requirements were only relaxed in the German Democratic Republic (GDR) during the late 1960s and in Albania after the collapse of communism, while one of the most liberal abortion policies in Europe, enacted in Romania during 1957, was replaced by the notoriously oppressive Decree 770 a decade later. Attitudes to contraception also diverged. Demographers have reported that in many state-socialist countries, such as Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia and Soviet Russia, abortion was the primary method employed to limit family size. In Russia in particular, contraceptives were viewed with suspicion by both doctors and women
Family planning policies and practices in Poland only partially mirrored the models and activities in other ‘bloc’ countries. With abortion initially legalised in 1956, the addition of a 1959 decree had made the procedure practically available on demand, with state hospitals admitting women for terminations free of charge. However, doctors and family planning activists involved in popularisation of family planning consistently depicted abortion as a dangerous surgery that should only be used as a last resort, and recommended contraception as the preferable alternative
Poland is one of the only few countries in the world where abortion became largely outlawed since the 1990s after decades of permissive liberalized legislation during the communist–era Polish People's Republic.
In 1956, the Sejm legalised abortion in cases where the woman was experiencing "difficult living conditions". The interpretation of the change in the law varied from a restrictive interpretation in the late 1950s, to one in which abortion was allowed on request in the 1960s and 1970s.
The most important change was that of 1990, after the end of Communist rule, when the Ordinance of 30 April 1990 made access to abortion more difficult. Another major change came in 1993, when the law was further tightened, removing entirely "difficult living conditions" as a ground for abortions. As such, abortions could be legally obtained only in cases of serious threat to the life or health of the pregnant woman, as attested by two physicians, cases of rape or incest confirmed by a prosecutor, and cases in which prenatal tests, confirmed by two physicians, demonstrated that the fetus was seriously and irreversibly damaged.
The whole abortion issue is colored by politics. Abortion is seen as part of Soviet communism. As soon as the Berlin Wall fell, abortion was discarded. Just adding a political perspective. WWII has influences IVF laws in the EU.
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France and Italy forbid single women and lesbian couples from using artificial insemination and in vitro fertilization, or IVF, to conceive. Austria and Italy are among those banning all egg and sperm donations for IVF. Germany and Norway ban donating eggs, but not sperm.
Countries including Sweden require couples to have a stable relationship for at least a year to qualify for fertility treatment. Switzerland, among others, requires couples to be married.
And nearly everywhere in Europe except Ukraine, couples are banned from hiring a woman to carry a pregnancy for them.
Germany’s history of eugenics — where Nazi doctors forcibly sterilized or euthanized people in an attempt to eliminate hereditary illnesses and handicapped people — makes officials nervous about any procedures that handle embryos. It was only last year that Germany approved an embryo test commonly used elsewhere to spot genetic problems. The test, generally used only in IVF pregnancies, is still banned in Austria and Italy.
"Younger generation is more educated than previously so I think it contributes to less belief." Poland has always been a well-educated country. The Polish education system is ranked 5th in Europe and 10th in the world. If there is a fault, it's is on the Church's side. With Second Vatican Council the Church stopped teaching the basics. It's caused a worldwide lack of Catholic teachings.
Most Polish people who I knew when I lived in New York, were cultural Catholics. They went to church Christmas and Easter. They enjoyed the food and festivities, church? Not so much.
I am talking about Polish people who were born in Poland.
On Long Island there was Polish Town to the east in Riverhead and over the NYC like, Green Point, Brooklyn.
Polish Americans seem more devoutly loyal to Catholicism.
Europe, and Scandinavia, including Poland, is just not as "churchy" as the US. They may be more spiritual. Or less, than "churchy" Americans.
Most Polish people who I knew when I lived in New York, were cultural Catholics. They went to church Christmas and Easter. They enjoyed the food and festivities, church? Not so much.
I am talking about Polish people who were born in Poland.
On Long Island there was Polish Town to the east in Riverhead and over the NYC like, Green Point, Brooklyn.
Polish Americans seem more devoutly loyal to Catholicism.
Europe, and Scandinavia, including Poland, is just not as "churchy" as the US. They may be more spiritual. Or less, than "churchy" Americans.
Yes. I agree with this observation
and YorktownGal.
I think that Polish-Americans go to church mostly to chat with others, exchange gossips, see what's new in their neighborhood. Not so much to listen to the gospel.
This was my impression when I was in Chicago.
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