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Old 07-08-2011, 03:34 AM
 
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I'm lost here.

Anyone clarify these terms?

I know Raw is uncooked & in natural state like bean sprouts (alpha or clover, broccoli, etc.)? I think Paleo has seeds & nuts? Lectins are in UNCOOKED beans, etc. & cause disease or GI upset? And finally, what is this back & forth about whole grains -- & they being BAD for health?

I know carbs raise bld sugar but whole grains (complex GOOD carbs, no?) also raise insulin levels, & so get a bad rap for this? I'm totally confused on what I THOUGHT I knew re: nutrition. Thanks anyone.

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Old 07-08-2011, 03:55 AM
 
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I'm no nutritionist but I don't think there's anything bad about whole grains except they could slow down or prevent you from losing weight at a certain percentage of your daily intake. All carbs will raise your insulin levels resulting in an increase in appetite.

From what I understand, a lot of nutrients in vegetables are only released when cooked so it's not always a great idea just to eat them raw (although again, nothing bad other than the bean digestion problem).
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Old 07-08-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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Paleo isn't a raw diet. It just eliminates grain-based foods, dairy, beans, etc. Basically anything that is farmed. You have free reign to cook anything/everything, though.
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Old 07-09-2011, 10:28 AM
 
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Hooligan hit it on the head for Raw/Paleo.

Lectin can be either a good or bad protein, depending how much you eat, how raw it is, and what you eat with it. Unless you are eating a vegan diet, you would likely get enough variety of other proteins, vitamins, and minerals to balance out the negative aspects of lectin.

Any product in the supermarket which incorporates the majority of the grain is considered a 'whole grain'. Of course it is still ground up so that your body can process it exactly as it would a non-whole grain product. When you eat a grain product (bread, pasta, rice, cookies, etc.), the grain form has been modified to a point that your body can instantly process it for fuel. If you are mostly sedentary, and routinely eat some form of processed grain (whole grain or not - it really doesn't matter), your body has no choice except to store that fuel - which it stores as fat. Pretty much all the latest scientific studies about nutrition support this, which is why there have been a surge of diets over the past ten years that focus on high-protein and low-carbs (Adkins, South Beach, Zone, Paleo...). High carb intake is also related to high insulin (diabetes) and some other ailments. Of course, those with higher metabolisms don't store as much fat, and not everyone has the same insulin reaction to a carb-loaded diet.

The bottom line is: What is "bad" for you is dependent upon your DNA. If you play with your diet long enough, you will figure out what is best for you. Too much processed carbohydrate, sodium, and trans fat in your diet is probably not a good thing. You just have to adjust how much of these things you ingest depending on if you want to be lean and muscular, don't mind having a 20% body fat, or don't care how much body fat you have as long as you don't die of heart failure.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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I'm lost here.

Anyone clarify these terms?

I know Raw is uncooked & in natural state like bean sprouts (alpha or clover, broccoli, etc.)? I think Paleo has seeds & nuts? Lectins are in UNCOOKED beans, etc. & cause disease or GI upset? And finally, what is this back & forth about whole grains -- & they being BAD for health?

I know carbs raise bld sugar but whole grains (complex GOOD carbs, no?) also raise insulin levels, & so get a bad rap for this? I'm totally confused on what I THOUGHT I knew re: nutrition. Thanks anyone.
Paleo - diet consist of lean meats and fish, plenty of vegetables, nuts and fruits, and little or nothing in the way of carbs.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:23 PM
 
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Paleo - diet consist of lean meats and fish, plenty of vegetables, nuts and fruits, and little or nothing in the way of carbs.
If you're eating fruits, vegetables, and nuts, then you're not getting "nothing" in the way of carbs. They all all have carbs - though most of them are pretty low in carb content per serving.
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:22 PM
 
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Paleo - diet consist of lean meats and fish, plenty of vegetables, nuts and fruits, and little or nothing in the way of carbs.
What do you think a vegetable is? Cut the vegetables out and replace them with Twinkies if you want to eat less carbs.
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Old 07-11-2011, 07:28 AM
 
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What do you think a vegetable is? Cut the vegetables out and replace them with Twinkies if you want to eat less carbs.
You'd need to eat a lot of veggies, particularly if they're green, to get the carb load of a twinkie. I can eat vegetables at every meal and still be under 20 carbs for the day.
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:24 AM
 
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True, CAVA, but less true with fruits - which are not limited in any way by eating Paleo.

A banana has nearly as many carbs as a Twinkie, granted most would consider them much healthier carbs vs. the Twinkie.
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:02 PM
 
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You'd need to eat a lot of veggies, particularly if they're green, to get the carb load of a twinkie. I can eat vegetables at every meal and still be under 20 carbs for the day.
Cool.

If you ate the same calories of Twinkies as vegetables, you'd be even further under "20 carbs", whatever that is.
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