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I was watching one of those weight loss transformation programs where they follow the person before and after they have gastric bypass surgery. One of the people on the program was describing all of the "crazy" things they had done to lose weight. One thing that they tried was a liquid diet.
When they said that a liquid diet was "crazy" my eyebrow lifted. Here's how I see it.
There are doctors that are still prescribing liquid diets (yes, they are). Today's liquid diet shakes are nutritionally balanced and are perfectly safe to drink and to use as an aid to losing weight. Liquid diets are not easy but I wouldn't call them crazy.
Now, consider what the person is about to do. They are going to get a gastric bypass. They are going to have a doctor go in and cut up a perfectly healthy digestive system in order to help them lose weight.
So what's crazier? Drinking shakes or having your healthy digestive system mangled?
Now, I know that people are going to say that shakes aren't effective and that the surgery works better long term. That may have some validity but there are gastric bypass patients that lose and regain hundreds of pounds. So there are no permanent guarantees with any option.
But effectiveness is not the purpose of this thread. I'm strictly asking about "craziness."
Which do you think is crazier or extreme? A liquid diet or surgery?
By the way, I am not "judging" anyone who has had the surgery. That's your business and your personal choice. I have no problem with it. I just thought it was strange to call the surgery okay but call a liquid diet crazy.
I am not ridiculing obese people. I personally have a significant amount of weight to lose so I empathize with anyone trying to lose large amounts of weight.
And yeah, diet and exercise works great. Again, this thread was inspired by the statement made in the TV program.
Last edited by charlygal; 05-16-2014 at 09:39 PM..
I'd say surgery, just because it's so permanent. you can try a liquid diet for a week or two and then drop it, the surgery is something you are stuck with.
personally, what I find crazier is someone getting to that point where they're on a strict liquid diet and possible surgery in order to save their life from obesity.
personally, what I find crazier is someone getting to that point where they're on a strict liquid diet and possible surgery in order to save their life from obesity.
It happens because of the same reason why YOU have found yourself in some strange life situation. It's life. It happens.
It happens because of the same reason why YOU have found yourself in some strange life situation. It's life. It happens.
I can see that, things can sneak up on you without you noticing. but with obesity, it's so in your face. Your clothes will stop fitting, you will have to go buy new clothes(hard to ignore that), etc. It doesn't sneak up on people, they just don't seem to care enough to do anything about it. Or they are stuck in a fixed mindset and don't believe they can do anything about it (which doesn't make sense, because they are continually growing fatter, stands to reason one can go the opposite direction too).
I don't know how people don't notice or do something about 80 extra pounds of body fat until it's already there. Once I get to about 3-5 extra pounds I commit to throttling back on excess calorie consumption. I hate the feeling of being fat, drives me nuts.
Surgery is always the crazier and more extreme thing to do.
Voluntary surgery is crazy because it says that the person is either unable or unwilling to do what is needed to make themselves healthier and happier. Things like eating right and exercise are the things this person wants to avoid. Surgery for this person is crazy and super extreme.
Mandatory surgery is also crazy because it says that the person was unable to control themselves, blamed their obesity on a mental illness like depression, or has a team of enablers surrounding them who do/did nothing good for them. Watching that my 500 lb life show and you see tons (pun intended) of people like this. Blaming depression, failed relationships, "momma who always fed me good food when growing up", and being surrounded by bobble headed enablers who continue to help that person kill themselves.
People should try eating right and exercising because it WORKS!!!
If someone struggles with controlling their eating and exercise habits and never makes any real progress over the course of decades, and then they get surgery and end up with the control they lacked before, then good for them. I'd much rather do it the natural way personally, but if it works, who am I to say that it's crazy. One thing's for sure, I don't consider people with a serious weight problem to just be lazy. There are many factors involved when a person is 50-100 lbs overweight... genetics, upbringing, work/life balance, self esteem all play a role and can multiply off each other for good or bad.
If someone struggles with controlling their eating and exercise habits and never makes any real progress over the course of decades, and then they get surgery and end up with the control they lacked before, then good for them..
This is the biggest bunch a malarkey that Ive ever heard. Its EASY to control what you eat. People just don't want to and start blaming it on ridiculously stupid things like "Oh, I have depression so I eat" or "My depression meds make me crave food". I say B. friggin' S.!!!
Stop buying horrible food. Stop eating horrible food. Just STOP. I did it.
Bacon tastes delicious. Cake is delicious. Bread with butter spread is delicious. I stopped eating all of this crap because IT IS BAD FOR ME. Just like that I stopped. I didn't blame my "depression" for anything. If you ate right, exercised, and cut out all the horrible crap you eat out of your diet you will not have depression.
I always get so disgusted when people continue to eat crap they know they shouldn't eat, then blame it on depression or depression meds. Stupid.
Its EASY to control what you eat. Just lean what it healthy and eat that. No one handcuffs you, strap you in a chair and force feed you crappy food. YOU DO!! Just stop eating it.
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