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Old 08-08-2016, 08:50 PM
 
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between below two cases?
machine resistance workout, 5 sets including first set as an warming up set.
If 120lb is the maximum weight ( meaning just can do 6 reps barely)

1) 1 set: warming up set: 80lb
2nd: 120lb, 3rd: 110lb, 4th: 100lb, 5th: 90lb

2) 1 set: warming up set: 80lb
2nd: 90lb, 3: 100, 4: 110, 5th: 120lb
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Old 08-09-2016, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Beachwood, OH
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Neither. I don't remember if you only do machines or if you're okay with free weights, but you would really be doing yourself a favor picking up this book.


https://www.amazon.com/Bigger-Leaner.../dp/B006XF5BTG
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:05 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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"Better" for what goal(s)?
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:35 PM
 
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If you do pyramids you want to do at least one back off set. So I'd vote against #2.
Also, when did 6 reps become a "max" weight? Max weight is weight that can be moved PROPERLY with the ultimate effort 1 to 2 times, 2nd time maybe being partial.
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Old 08-09-2016, 08:29 PM
 
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If you do pyramids you want to do at least one back off set. So I'd vote against #2.
Also, when did 6 reps become a "max" weight? Max weight is weight that can be moved PROPERLY with the ultimate effort 1 to 2 times, 2nd time maybe being partial.
Two generally accepted max lift standards, and generally accepted meaning this is what the lifting community speaks to; 1 rep max and the 5 rep max.

The second one is the general ramping up style common with routines like Madcow. But the spacing is way too close. If 120lbs was the max, then the ramping up would be something like 25, 45, 65, 85, 120.
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:11 AM
 
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So long story to short,
Basically my question is
From heavy to light?
Or light to heavy?
Which is better for lean strong muscle?
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Old 08-11-2016, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Beachwood, OH
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Warmup.


Heavy (4-6 reps) then:


A) Did you do 6 reps? Add 5 pounds and go for 4-6 again
B) Did you do < 4 reps? Drop 5-10 pounds and go for 4-6 again.
C) Did you do 4-5 reps? Keep the weight the same and go for 4-6 again.


Rinse/repeat.


Rest 3 mins in between each set. 3 sets. 3-4 exercises/workout.


EZ Game.
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:08 AM
 
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So long story to short,
Basically my question is
From heavy to light?
Or light to heavy?
Which is better for lean strong muscle?


Light to heavy. I've never seen one serious training programming advocate for anything else.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:26 PM
 
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Light to heavy. I've never seen one serious training programming advocate for anything else.
I mean for one session.
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Old 08-11-2016, 06:34 PM
 
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ok,
now,
when you do machine resistance strength workout, for example, seated (chest) machine pressure, do you put the same weight for your 4 sets? or different weights? IOW, if you can do 6 reps with 200lb, then you place 200lb and do the 4 sets?( like 6 reps each)? or you put various weights?
( I know when you can do more weight, then you can increase the weight, but my question is for the day training)
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