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Old 06-03-2019, 10:12 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Great post wcu25rs!


I'm a city cop. To add to my issue, I have to be prepared for long hours of no physical activity at all, broken up by those short intense periods which are life or death. I'd imagine you have to be able to sustain your strength for longer periods that I do but for the same reason: to keep yourself and your teammates alive.


I'm going to research the program you just mentioned when I get some time later tonight.
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Old 06-03-2019, 11:02 AM
 
Location: WNC
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Great post wcu25rs!


I'm a city cop. To add to my issue, I have to be prepared for long hours of no physical activity at all, broken up by those short intense periods which are life or death. I'd imagine you have to be able to sustain your strength for longer periods that I do but for the same reason: to keep yourself and your teammates alive.


I'm going to research the program you just mentioned when I get some time later tonight.
Awesome man! If you want, head on over to tacticalbarbell.com and browse the forums some as well, and also r/tacticalbarbell on reddit for some additional basic info about the program.
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Old 06-03-2019, 03:45 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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So..... did they help?

I said that I was convinced they were helping my recovery at the time, but from more recent research I think I was probably hurting my progress. If you research this, it is not just antioxidants that will prevent your body making adaptions to exercise, but also NSAIDs will have a similar effect.
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Old 06-03-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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I said that I was convinced they were helping my recovery at the time, but from more recent research I think I was probably hurting my progress. If you research this, it is not just antioxidants that will prevent your body making adaptions to exercise, but also NSAIDs will have a similar effect.
Dude, only you can decide if something is helping you or not. You can't really say it is - and then read something 15 years later and say "Dam, I was totally wrong!"
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Old 06-03-2019, 04:52 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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Dude, only you can decide if something is helping you or not. You can't really say it is - and then read something 15 years later and say "Dam, I was totally wrong!"

Yes, I just did. If you think you can take a supplement and know if it doing something for you, then you are fooling yourself. I've tried most every supplement that exists and I have never been sure if it is doing anything, especially in regard to recovery. Maybe you're reading too many bodybuilding magazines.
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Old 06-03-2019, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I said that I was convinced they were helping my recovery at the time, but from more recent research I think I was probably hurting my progress. If you research this, it is not just antioxidants that will prevent your body making adaptions to exercise, but also NSAIDs will have a similar effect.
I don't see how antioxidants can possibly be bad for you or hinder progress. Many fruits and vegetables are full of them.
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Old 06-04-2019, 06:14 AM
 
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Yes, I just did. If you think you can take a supplement and know if it doing something for you, then you are fooling yourself. I've tried most every supplement that exists and I have never been sure if it is doing anything, especially in regard to recovery
Lol ok.. In other words you can't monitor your own body and need to be spoon fed info about how you feel. Got it.
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Old 06-04-2019, 04:11 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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I don't see how antioxidants can possibly be bad for you or hinder progress. Many fruits and vegetables are full of them.

I never said antioxidants are bad for you. What I have read over the past 5 years is they may not help recovery and may actually hinder the adaptions from exercise that you are striving for. See:


https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/...-your-workout/


https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ant...arm-than-good/


https://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Articl...tioxidants.pdf


https://breakingmuscle.com/healthy-e...ts-of-exercise


https://www.pnas.org/content/106/21/8665
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Old 06-04-2019, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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I never said antioxidants are bad for you. What I have read over the past 5 years is they may not help recovery and may actually hinder the adaptions from exercise that you are striving for. See:


https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/...-your-workout/


https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ant...arm-than-good/


https://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Articl...tioxidants.pdf


https://breakingmuscle.com/healthy-e...ts-of-exercise


https://www.pnas.org/content/106/21/8665
I'll add this one too.

https://bodyrecomposition.com/resear...h-review.html/
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:05 AM
 
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A lot of "bro science" in here, but thought I would share this article about training over 40:

https://www.t-nation.com/training/th..._i_AWHsnun_wso
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