[Garson]

AS I STATED EARLIER......

We live in Wesley Chapel and really like that area.

Walking the hood at night - seriously?

The roads and freeways here are awful, construction takes forever and then the finished product is not even a nice smooth road but a patchwork bumpy mess. How many years did it take to build ONE lane on I75? And why was the freeway only two lanes outside of Tampa anyway - in 2011!!
Tampa is just an ugly dirty city. Some cute older neighborhoods surrounded by trash. Some of the supposed 'nice' areas are just gross. There is just no reason to go there other than maybe the Straz on occasion. We were soo disappointed the first time we went to St Pete...other than downtown..i just do not get it.
Clearwater....a beautiful beach surrounded by sleaze and grossness,,,and again some cute neighborhoods.
Tampa/St Pete isn't awful - it's just mediocre.

[tarajane2013]

Where are the natives? Just hard working mind your own business keep the peace kind of thing...
I found Appalachiola to be hard working oystermen. Very respectful and just wanting a 6 pack and go home and do it all the next day. (Could never spell Apalachiola)

[tarajane2013]

I all my experiences in FL vacationing there for 45 years off and on I have never had a confrontation and the people like you said are friendly at the store. Just depends where you go I guess.

Originally Posted by BNBR

This is a very stupid and very naive topic/post.

Florida is massive, and unless you have lived in every area and even every suburb, you have no idea. Florida has everything, every type of neighborhood and all sorts of different people in different areas. Where I live, people are very friendly, intelligent, well off, etc.

How easy you could spend time in a certain part of Seattle or wherever, that isn't quite so friendly. Then swear Washington is full of stupid people. I have no problem surrounding myself with highly educated, friendly people in Florida. And when I'm at the store, the cashier smiles and says hello. Neighbors wave as they drive by.

I've also been in very unfriendly areas and stupid areas in the most progressive countries in the world. But I don't judge the entire country that way.

Quite frankly, maybe it's YOU. Clearly you are attention starved. Maybe people just don't like you? Good bye, good riddance.

[Spring Hillian]

Originally Posted by tarajane2013

I all my experiences in FL vacationing there for 45 years off and on I have never had a confrontation and the people like you said are friendly at the store. Just depends where you go I guess.

It really depends on your perception of what is happening around you. Ive never had, nor seen, any confrontations taking place in any place Ive been unless you count a customer advising a cashier that the item rang up at the wrong price.

Seems certain people find themselves involved in confrontations on a regular basis.

[StreetSmarts]

Originally Posted by BNBR

This is a very stupid and very naive topic/post.

Florida is massive, and unless you have lived in every area and even every suburb, you have no idea. Florida has everything, every type of neighborhood and all sorts of different people in different areas. Where I live, people are very friendly, intelligent, well off, etc.

How easy you could spend time in a certain part of Seattle or wherever, that isn't quite so friendly. Then swear Washington is full of stupid people. I have no problem surrounding myself with highly educated, friendly people in Florida. And when I'm at the store, the cashier smiles and says hello. Neighbors wave as they drive by.

I've also been in very unfriendly areas and stupid areas in the most progressive countries in the world. But I don't judge the entire country that way.

Quite frankly, maybe it's YOU. Clearly you are attention starved. Maybe people just don't like you? Good bye, good riddance.

I don't think it's the OP. Typical response though. He's entitled to his opinion as many others have also agreed and noted some of the very same thing. Probably something to it, don'tcha think?

[StreetSmarts]

PDF just made the move from FL to Raleigh. Maybe he will chime in but I bet 100$ that he will say the deterioration of the place is not near the degree of how bad FL has changed.

[Spring Hillian]

Originally Posted by StreetSmarts

PDF just made the move from FL to Raleigh. Maybe he will chime in but I bet 100$ that he will say the deterioration of the place is not near the degree of how bad FL has changed.

Do you believe that the entire state of FL has changed? I will attest that Orlando is not the same as it was 25, even 20 years ago. For 12-13 years my office was in Winter Park and I had no reason to go downtown. I had to attend a meeting near Lake Eola and I could not grasp the transition. That transition spread east on Colonial Drive. The mall that Dillards was in was demolished and a more modern development took its place as did the Winter Park mall on 17-92. Little Saigon (Mills/50) popped up in what seemed ro be overnight. Going further east on 50 towards Christmas got developed as well. Same thing happened in the Winter Springs/Oviedo area, i.e. Chapman Rd/434.

Then you visit a town like Ft. Lonesome, 35 miles SE of Tampa and its another world. Try Spring Lake in Pasco County, try Milton up by Pensacola, Gulfport or any one of hundreds of communities where you don't see anything that is like the Orlando metro area. No, the entire state has not changed but certainly the urban centers have.

[StreetSmarts]

No I don't believe the entire state has changed, most of it though, yes.

[Travelassie]

Originally Posted by tarajane2013

I all my experiences in FL vacationing there for 45 years off and on I have never had a confrontation and the people like you said are friendly at the store. Just depends where you go I guess.

I have lived in FL for close to 40 yrs, worked and raised a family here, and I never had such a confrontation either. Some folks I have met along the way kept to themselves, maintained a professional demeanor, or were very friendly, just human nature, I think.
Perhaps one's own attitude influences how others react to him/ her.

[PDF]

Originally Posted by StreetSmarts

PDF just made the move from FL to Raleigh. Maybe he will chime in but I bet 100$ that he will say the deterioration of the place is not near the degree of how bad FL has changed.

6 months now. While I know that NC is experiencing major growth and no place that goes through that will remain the same, NC has been able to retain its culture and the things that make it nice. Florida was just a mess to begin with. I don't think NC or any other newly popular place will become as bad as FL.