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Old 05-31-2017, 04:22 PM
 
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Does he mean Ybor? Can the person provide a source please? Article?
Ybor City, FL - Part of Cuba in Florida
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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Thanks for that. I never knew. I have taken pictures in front of it, Ybor is a Jem.
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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People love to quote the Orlando metro area stats but need to realize what Orlando offers is primarily within the realm of tiny downtown Orlando or the SW Orlando/theme park area. The rest is pretty much generic suburban sprawl.
While I agree that Tampa is a much more established city, keep in mind that Orlando proper does not include places such as Pine Hills, Winter Park and Maitland. Add those in and the city population rises by almost 150k. And they are very centrally located. Blame that on poor zoning.
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Old 06-01-2017, 11:13 PM
 
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Unless you can afford a house on a salt water canal, I'd easily choose Orlando over Tampa. I noticed people like to say well, Tampa has some history to it, but realilty is if you are looking for a city with history, 95% of Tampa won't appeal to you because it's mostly strip malls. Your reasons for moving to Tampa should be wanting to own an actual house with a yard and be driving distance to nice beaches. If you are looking for a well established city WITH a historic feel, Tampa... anywhere in Florida isn't right for you.

I've been to Tampa a million times and it's never left a good impression on me. I went with my GF once and she also said she didn't like Tampa even before she knew my feelings on it. If I'm missing something let me know, but besides a couple areas, it just seems like a lot of run down strip malls. In Orlando, so much of the area has beautiful landscaping, new buildings, it just feels so much cleaner and fresher.
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Old 06-02-2017, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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I've been to Tampa a million times and it's never left a good impression on me. I went with my GF once and she also said she didn't like Tampa even before she knew my feelings on it. If I'm missing something let me know, but besides a couple areas, it just seems like a lot of run down strip malls.
This is very true. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it or they're trying to sell you something.

HOWEVER, the core is improving, thanks mostly to Vinik and Buckhorn. And let's be honest - Tampa has nowhere to go but up. The 'burbs, though, are mostly run down strip malls and homes, or newer and cleaner but extremely generic ticky-tack sprawl. This is not exclusive to Tampa, though. Orlando has plenty of that.
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:51 AM
 
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This is very true. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it or they're trying to sell you something.

HOWEVER, the core is improving, thanks mostly to Vinik and Buckhorn. And let's be honest - Tampa has nowhere to go but up. The 'burbs, though, are mostly run down strip malls and homes, or newer and cleaner but extremely generic ticky-tack sprawl. This is not exclusive to Tampa, though. Orlando has plenty of that.
I can't tell you how many people I've met over the years who went to the Orlando theme parks and International Drive and said they hated Florida based on their experience there alone. I also interviewed for a job in an area that was pretty much grim strip-mallville late last year, so it would be disingenuous to say that Orlando doesn't have them. It most certainly does! There are lots of pockets of Orlando that have grim strip malls just like Tampa, but in general, it is a newer city. That's because the Tampa Bay Area in general is more confined by building due to being on a bay/coast.

The downtown area in Tampa is radically different than it was just 10 years ago. For example, you can actually stay in the Floridan Palace, which was being renovated for what seemed to be eons! The old federal courthouse, which was not used for years due to mold issues, is now reopened as a hotel as well and kept a lot of the old courthouse features. Ten years ago you'd just walk around in that northern part of downtown and get the eau de urine smell and a drive would grace you with a nail in your tire or two. Farther south, the River Walk is actually pretty nice. That's not to say that it is there yet, but it is actually going somewhere.
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Old 06-04-2017, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Tampa, Fl
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The downtown area in Tampa is radically different than it was just 10 years ago.
It always humors me when people trash Tampa... Especially with outdated info. Downtown Tampa is just a small example of areas that are coming up. Seminole Heights, as early as ten years ago, was an incredibly run down area that not many people wanted to go to. Now, there are restaurants, bars, thrift shops, art shops, coffee houses, etc lining Florida Ave and the entirety of the area is going through a boom.

The area around University Mall, known for being "suitcase city," is bringing Johnson & Johnson HQ in, going to redevelop University Mall, and enticing a few technology firms to come in.

Westshore is a cool little area too.

Tampa is nothing but strip malls? You drove down Dale Mabry once ten years ago. Got it. And as someone who did a lot of driving in Orlando, it's a bigger city (land wise), with a lot more strip malls. What a stupid argument.
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Old 06-04-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Tampa, Fl
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Does he mean Ybor? Can the person provide a source please? Article?
It's clear that "a person" knows absolutely nothing about Tampa, but enjoys trashing it. I'd be VERY skeptical about information from someone who doesn't know about Jose Marti Park.

https://www.visittampabay.com/a-guid...ric-ybor-city/

Parque Amigos de Jose Marti
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Old 06-04-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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It always humors me when people trash Tampa... Especially with outdated info. Downtown Tampa is just a small example of areas that are coming up. Seminole Heights, as early as ten years ago, was an incredibly run down area that not many people wanted to go to. Now, there are restaurants, bars, thrift shops, art shops, coffee houses, etc lining Florida Ave and the entirety of the area is going through a boom.

The area around University Mall, known for being "suitcase city," is bringing Johnson & Johnson HQ in, going to redevelop University Mall, and enticing a few technology firms to come in.

Westshore is a cool little area too.

Tampa is nothing but strip malls? You drove down Dale Mabry once ten years ago. Got it. And as someone who did a lot of driving in Orlando, it's a bigger city (land wise), with a lot more strip malls. What a stupid argument.
Seminole heights was coming up 20 years ago. I went to HHS and finished in the mid '90s and even then t was starting to come up. Urban pioneer types bought east of Nebraska in the late '90s. I looked back then and it was still a little out of my price range for somewhere safe enough for a single female. I knew couples who got great deals on awesome houses.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Tampa, Fl
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Seminole heights was coming up 20 years ago. I went to HHS and finished in the mid '90s and even then t was starting to come up. Urban pioneer types bought east of Nebraska in the late '90s. I looked back then and it was still a little out of my price range for somewhere safe enough for a single female. I knew couples who got great deals on awesome houses.
If you're not still in Tampa, you'll be amazed when you see it now.
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