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Just for proper reference the prius info is not irrevelant. All the hybrid componets are either designed by toyota or are actual panasonic/toyota parts. People have changed their own batteries in those just like 1st gen prius for around 500$. Not trying to vonvince you of one choice or another, it's just that the spreading of so much MISinformation is ridiculous.
Simply not true.
Ford licensed a fair amount of Toyota hybrid technology. In other words the "know-how." Ford realized that its hybrid technology was similar to Toyota's and decided that licensing the technology was better than a patent war. That doesn't mean the parts are Toyota or manufactured by Toyota.
Right, but new. Or if you buy down the rate. Looks like non discounted used starts at 3%, which is a good deal if it's true for a 6+ year old car. Often, older the car, higher the rate.
Thanks for the info, I do appreciation the correction. And it may be an unlikely problem to even encounter; it's just that I understand the risks and costs of a traditional vehicle, but when I saw the cost on the Ford site for the Escape battery it was above replacement value (and since hybrids haven't been around as long I suppose that translates to more vulnerability when a mechanic quotes a repair). It does sound like the gas savings wouldn't offset the higher up front costs, so that's why the long term maintenance costs/risks are enough to have me hesitate.
Ford doesn't want you to replace the battery, they want you to replace the vehicle. Charge enough to put people off and you get a (hopefully) new car sale. Keep those stats up!
Ford licensed a fair amount of Toyota hybrid technology. In other words the "know-how." Ford realized that its hybrid technology was similar to Toyota's and decided that licensing the technology was better than a patent war. That doesn't mean the parts are Toyota or manufactured by Toyota.
WRONG.
VERY true Hoff.. there's nothing you're gonna teach me about hybrids Hoff.. The batteries in the Escape are made by Sanyo, partly owned by Toyota, the CVT which is what makes one of these full hybrids operate the way they do is made by Aisin, WHOLLY owned by Toyota. AND of course they have to license the tech from Toyota as well.
Great and breaking (8 year old) news with no specifics. doesn't "straighten out" or add anything. Although I don't need any help with it. I truely undersrand how the ford/toyota relationship works. As well as the suppliers owned by Toyota that make many of the parts in the Ford and Nissan hybrids. The biggest reason there is not a 2013 Escape hybrid is NOT the Cmax, but because Toyota/Aisin could/would not garuntee Ford a sunfficient number of CVT's.
Ford Motor Company ,regulated by the government to have to warranty the batteries & electric part of the car for 150,000 miles or 10yrs, call you local dealer for any extended warranty facts before those times hit
Ferretkona - your wife's 36/25 mpg - was that with a 4 cylinder or a 6 cylinder? Is that the same mileage I'd expect with an earlier model? That is impressive.
Consumer reports had a black mark by the transmission. When did it go out? I suppose that is something you just budget for when negotiating a used car. Any reports on the reliability of replacement trannies?
Apparently you live in Virginia. The warranty changes depending on which state you live as some states consider the battery as emissions equipment. The warranty for your Escape would be 8 years or 100,000 miles. So the battery is about expire on warranty. Considering a new OEM battery from Ford costs $8,000.00 plus installation, I'd consider this car junk as it's pretty much a dead horse on it's last legs. I wouldn't want the car at all but if they are negotiable, I'd offer them $1500.00 max. Otherwise, you're buying a money pit.
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doesn't "straighten out" or add anything. Although I don't need any help with it. I truely undersrand how the ford/toyota relationship works. As well as the suppliers owned by Toyota that make many of the parts in the Ford and Nissan hybrids. The biggest reason there is not a 2013 Escape hybrid is NOT the Cmax, but because Toyota/Aisin could/would not garuntee Ford a sunfficient number of CVT's.
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