05-29-2010, 03:13 PM
Location: Texas
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No. Fort Worth does not have the name recognition Dallas does. Fort Worth needs to wake up and realize that they are second banana and always will be. Dallas is a big business and cosmopolitan town, Fort Worth is an industrial cowtown. Dallas has the major sports teams, Fort Worth does not. Internationally many people have heard of Dallas and often travel there for business. You can tell most people in England that you are headed to Fort Worth for business(without mentioning the state and country it is located)and they will not know where it is or even heard of the city before.
Whoa! Ft. Worth is not second banana to Dallas. We are talking about two separate entities. Ft. Worth has no desire to be the size of Dallas. We like Ft. Worth just the way it is. The downtown is a vital place both morning and night. It's easy to get to and get around in. The parks are nifty and the museums are world class. Our Stockyard district attracts millions of tourists and there is a lot to do in that area. Plus we have one of the best zoos in the US.
Fort Worth is a perfect size and a great place to raise kids but don't tell anyone.
05-29-2010, 03:19 PM
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Lol, heck no. I want to see Houston get the NHL team first. And Houston is 2nd in line in the country at getting an NHL team only after Kansas City.
I meant one in the national league. They have one in the American league. Many big metros like New York and Los Angeles have teams in both category.
I don't think OKC was wrong to get an NBA team. They are big enough and many cities OKC's size have teams in other major league categories as well, like Seattle and Boston(which OKC is around the same size as).
05-29-2010, 03:28 PM
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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I meant one in the national league. They have one in the American league. Many big metros like New York and Los Angeles have teams in both category.
Seattle and Boston have larger metropolitan populations than Oklahoma City by far! Which contributes to successful media markets.
Take Jacksonville as an example, looking at the city population, it's the 13th largest in the country, but it's metropolitan population is 1.3 million, it's considered the 3rd smallest media market for NFL after Green Bay and Buffalo because of that.
Well Dallas isn't on NYC or LA's level, it has to get through Chicago whose got two MLB teams too (Cubs and White Sox), chances of Dallas getting another team for any of the Big 4, probably never going to happen. The metroplex can get more teams, but they'll be Fort Worth's. But then again, that's just an NBA and MLS team at the most. Chances of Dallas getting another team is probably zero.
Seattle is probably going to get an NBA team sooner than later. I can't see them being ignored for too long.
05-31-2010, 12:17 AM
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Seattle and Boston have larger metropolitan populations than Oklahoma City by far! Which contributes to successful media markets.
Yes, but Seattle sucks. The Supersonics, now known as the OKC Thunder, have been doing much better as a team since moving to OKC.
Dallas will be Chicago's current size in the future.
05-31-2010, 03:10 AM
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Yes, but Seattle sucks. The Supersonics, now known as the OKC Thunder, have been doing much better as a team since moving to OKC.
That's totally a lie:
Dallas: - City Proper: 1,279,910 - MSA: 6,447,615 - CSA: 6,805,275 Chicago: - City Proper: 2,853,114 - MSA: 9,580,567 - CSA: 9,804,845
There is no possible way, even with it's growth that it will surpass Chicago for another 55-60 years. And by then, I doubt Dallas will keep that pace of growth for another half a century. Because Chicago's metropolitan area is growing too. And so is it's CSA, in fact by then it's CSA will combine with Milwaukee's to add another 3 million people based off of commute.
There is just no way.
As for the city proper, yeah that's not happening this century.
Lol, you're starting to worry me. You have to know this stuff ahead of time before making claims like that.
And no lol, Seattle was actually pretty good. They moved because of the team management and because of the facility and such. But yeah, the Thunder's have done well this year.
05-31-2010, 05:21 PM
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That's totally a lie:Dallas: - City Proper: 1,279,910 - MSA: 6,447,615 - CSA: 6,805,275 Chicago: - City Proper: 2,853,114 - MSA: 9,580,567 - CSA: 9,804,845
Yet Fort Worth will surpass Chicago??
Also, why are you so against the Thunder in OKC??
05-31-2010, 05:32 PM
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Yet Fort Worth will surpass Chicago??
Haha heck no. Fort Worth doesn't have a chance at surpassing Chicago. The only Texas city that does is Houston.
Nothing against them at all. I just thought it was a dumb move for them.
05-31-2010, 07:36 PM
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Haha heck no. Fort Worth doesn't have a chance at surpassing Chicago. The only Texas city that does is Houston.
When do you think FW will surpass Dallas if it does??
Why was it a dumb move for them?? They have half a million people.
05-31-2010, 07:43 PM
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When do you think FW will surpass Dallas if it does??
If my math is right and if it sustains the same amount of growth or even drops by say 15% at the worst, it will surpass Dallas near 2030, no sooner, and that's if Dallas grows the same rate it is as well.
I guess it's personal preference, I like Seattle more.
05-31-2010, 10:53 PM
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If my math is right and if it sustains the same amount of growth or even drops by say 15% at the worst, it will surpass Dallas near 2030, no sooner, and that's if Dallas grows the same rate it is as well.
So there is nothing written in stone that Fort Worth will even surpass Dallas??
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Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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