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Old 09-29-2015, 06:42 PM
 
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there seems to be a stereo type of the native americans as having an eye like an eagle and having the ability to see in the dark? and being naturally good hunters , trackers, etc?

shouldnt the African American also have special tracking hunting, fighting, eye like an eagle, skills as well? since they also came from a hunter / warrior society?

unless you were actually raised since childhood to hunt and track, I dont see how they would know how without any training?
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Old 09-29-2015, 09:47 PM
 
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there seems to be a stereo type of the native americans as having an eye like an eagle and having the ability to see in the dark? and being naturally good hunters , trackers, etc?

shouldnt the African American also have special tracking hunting, fighting, eye like an eagle, skills as well? ..........
Native Americans raised in a family that hunts and tracks are generally good hunters. A pre-American African American (meaning living in Africa in an African culture ) if that was a hunting culfure, he'd probably be a good hunter and a good tracker.

Little white kids who grow up in a hunting family tend to be good hunters and trackers.

In the USA, there are, right as we speak, African Americans who are excellent hunters and trackers and more than a couple native Americans who are deadly on a computer but would have no clue how to skin an elk.

Nobody is genetically programed to be a super tracker. It's a learned skill and almost anyone can learn it with a little effort. So your stereotype has very little value.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:45 PM
 
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there seems to be a stereo type of the native americans as having an eye like an eagle and having the ability to see in the dark? and being naturally good hunters , trackers, etc?

shouldnt the African American also have special tracking hunting, fighting, eye like an eagle, skills as well? since they also came from a hunter / warrior society?

unless you were actually raised since childhood to hunt and track, I dont see how they would know how without any training?
I am an African American Woman and was raised in a family that are experts in hunting just about anything. Our family have a generational interest of owning hunting land throughout the USA. We currently today own 645 Acres scattered from Kentucky, Alabama, Georgia, Texas and Mississippi.
I went along with my Father and Grandfather during hunting vacations and I loved it. Although I do not actively hunt today, but would love to pass on the interest to my children. The younger generation has a lesser interest in hunting. There a total of 7 hunting dogs in my family(Aunts, Uncles, Cousins) - German shorthaired Pointers and Field Irish/ Red Setters. Excellent breeds and very sharp in skills.

I found this cool information on Holt Collier 1907jpg file. Free Licensed or Public domain Media on Wikipedia-Holt Collier. One of which was an African American Hunter- Bear hunter and sportsman.
He was born in Mississippi, Greeneville in 1846- 1936. He was a tracker for the US President Teddy
Roosevelt in 1902. He was a veteran of the Battle of New Orleans.
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is it true native americans have better night vision/ better hunters, etc?-holt_collier_-1907-.jpg  

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Old 10-01-2015, 02:49 PM
 
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Great photo, kalfur. Thanks!

I have my doubts about a stereotype that modern day native americans are all excellent trackers and hunters. The "stereotype" that I have heard and seen a lot of on the telly is that native americans during frontier times and during the American war for independence were superb hunters and trackers. For that time period, I don't think it is stereotype as much as it was reality. Also, the reality was that white and black frontiersmen were also excellent hunters and trackers a La Daniel Boone.

Ive never heard anyone shouting "someone run over to the casino and get us an Indian to find this lost child." So I suspect that the stereotype doesn't exist today.
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Old 10-01-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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there seems to be a stereo type of the native americans as having an eye like an eagle and having the ability to see in the dark? and being naturally good hunters , trackers, etc?

shouldnt the African American also have special tracking hunting, fighting, eye like an eagle, skills as well? since they also came from a hunter / warrior society?

unless you were actually raised since childhood to hunt and track, I dont see how they would know how without any training?
Not hard to imagine there would be distinct genetic differences that show up in physical capabilities between Europeans, Africans, and Native Americans... Look at this chart for example

http://harvardmagazine.com/2008/05-i...ome-map-lg.gif Moderator cut: Sorry but this is infringement of copyright. It's fine to post a link but not a full photo or entire article

European and Asian populations roughly 40-45,000 years ago or so... that's plenty of time for natural selection to favor different traits. We can see this even with basic physical features and traits ourselves. How it all relates to capabilities hunting I personally don't know but it certainly isn't out of the realm of possibility... Especially if you consider that primitive hunting was abandoned by many European cultures far earlier than African or Native American ones (some of those cultures still do that to this day), which means natural selection would be at play for traits that favor hunters for a lot longer than many European genetic populations.

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Old 10-01-2015, 03:45 PM
 
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OP, I guarantee you, that you have been born without electricity and spent your life outdoors, hunting day OR night, your vision would have been better than any limy. Just for the simple cause of being trained that way. You know, vision shrpness and sensitivity can be trained, right?
Out of curiosity, Big Bear constellation was used by inidians to check on eye sharpness. There are actually 7, not 6 stars in it. Only sharp eye will see the 7th star. Try it out.
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Old 10-03-2015, 08:16 PM
 
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I am an African American Woman and was raised in a family that are experts in hunting just about anything. Our family have a generational interest of owning hunting land throughout the USA. We currently today own 645 Acres scattered from Kentucky, Alabama, Georgia, Texas and Mississippi.
I went along with my Father and Grandfather during hunting vacations and I loved it. Although I do not actively hunt today, but would love to pass on the interest to my children. The younger generation has a lesser interest in hunting. There a total of 7 hunting dogs in my family(Aunts, Uncles, Cousins) - German shorthaired Pointers and Field Irish/ Red Setters. Excellent breeds and very sharp in skills.

I found this cool information on Holt Collier 1907jpg file. Free Licensed or Public domain Media on Wikipedia-Holt Collier. One of which was an African American Hunter- Bear hunter and sportsman.
He was born in Mississippi, Greeneville in 1846- 1936. He was a tracker for the US President Teddy
Roosevelt in 1902. He was a veteran of the Battle of New Orleans.
Great story! Thank you for sharing.
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Old 10-03-2015, 08:19 PM
 
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OP, I guarantee you, that you have been born without electricity and spent your life outdoors, hunting day OR night, your vision would have been better than any limy. Just for the simple cause of being trained that way. You know, vision shrpness and sensitivity can be trained, right?
Out of curiosity, Big Bear constellation was used by inidians to check on eye sharpness. There are actually 7, not 6 stars in it. Only sharp eye will see the 7th star. Try it out.
Cool information here, too. I've never heard of that.
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