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Why don't we call them First Nation people as in Canada. It is a much more accurate description than native American. After all anyone born here is a native American...no?
I totally agree. First Nations sounds much more descriptive and poetic, Native American in realtiy b.s. politically correct term. I have no problem with "Indian" whatsoever, but I kinda like "First Nations", has a real nice sound to it.
My ancestors believed in all kinds of crezy stuff like the sun goes around the earth, diseases can be treated effectively with leeches, protestants are heretics, and white men have a "manifest destiny" to control the continent. That doesn't mean I have the look at things the same way. Why should Indians treat their forerunners' beliefs as fact anymore than I do mine?
well because we have held our stories for generations, this stuff was not just something grandma ramble off about it was told to all the generations, the Native beliefs are all different but simialar in many ways. there are many traditions we follow and believe and feel that they are very spiritual to us, kinda like the bible is to christians i suppose. I am probably not explaining this very well ,but i am trying.
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I was really proud to officially discover Cherokee on my family tree last October. I am 1/32nd Indian, descended from Chief Big Feathers who left Virginia on the Trail of Tears, later dying in Oklahoma
Well a reason why so many Americans claim native american ansestors is when Europeans first settled in a region in America most of first settlers to the region were males and with the lack of females they found a solution and it was the native american women.
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The pioneer of DNA study himself looks as "white" as most Europeans, yet when his DNA test came back, it was shown that he has 16% African DNA in him.
Looks alone do not tell the whole story.
What about whites who were adopted by indians...Blue Jacket,Daniel Boone but he escaped the Shawnee to return to his own but said he always had more in common with the indians than the whites and lived in peace with them till he died. Also here in southern Ohio we were part of the Northwest territory considered part of Virginia & after the Revolution they gave land of 100 acres to the soldiers as payment to settle here. Deeds today still read Virginia Military District on them and my mothers side of the family settled in Adams Co. Ohio back in the day.The French were here too...go to Portsmouth Floodwall Murals and look at the beautiful indian ones...
such a good post. we hid our ancestory 50 years ago. now we attempt to parade it.
however to be fair "american" is a 500 year old culture, how sad nobody wants to be one anymore.
The pioneer of DNA study himself looks as "white" as most Europeans, yet when his DNA test came back, it was shown that he has 16% African DNA in him.
Looks alone do not tell the whole story.
1/16 means that one of his great grandparents was African (I presume you mean black African). That's not very much so of course he's going to look European if the other 15 of his great great grandparents were European.
What about whites who were adopted by indians...Blue Jacket,Daniel Boone but he escaped the Shawnee to return to his own but said he always had more in common with the indians than the whites and lived in peace with them till he died. Also here in southern Ohio we were part of the Northwest territory considered part of Virginia & after the Revolution they gave land of 100 acres to the soldiers as payment to settle here. Deeds today still read Virginia Military District on them and my mothers side of the family settled in Adams Co. Ohio back in the day.The French were here too...go to Portsmouth Floodwall Murals and look at the beautiful indian ones...
The Eastern Band of the Cherokee Nation (the ones that are based in Cherokee, N.C.), what was left of them when the Trail of Tears had commenced that had not died or been sent west to Oklahoma, partially owes its existence to a White man that was full member of Tsalagi (Cherokee) nation named Will Thomas (I think that was his name, anyway) who had been adopted by a Cherokee man and raised as his son and as a full member of the tribe. He both raised money and legally fought for the Cherokees against the Federal Government to keep the remaining Cherokees in Smoky and Appalachian Mtn. area from being removed west or arrested or killed, and monetarily and personally and politically helped his people (yes, even though he was white, they were his people) throughout his lifetime. In the Civil War, as a side note, he was a Confederate Commander, and was leader over both Indian and White soldiers for the Confederate cause, won the "Battle of Gatlinburg" (yes, where the good ole tourist town of Gatlinburg, Ripley's Believe It or Not, Aqaurium, Sky Lift, taffy shops, etc., is) for the South, and around end of Civil War, had to CAPTURE a Union outfit to SURRENDER to them, the war being over, thank goodness.
well because we have held our stories for generations, this stuff was not just something grandma ramble off about it was told to all the generations, the Native beliefs are all different but simialar in many ways. there are many traditions we follow and believe and feel that they are very spiritual to us, kinda like the bible is to christians i suppose. I am probably not explaining this very well ,but i am trying.
I get your drift. Even in U.S. of now, say, Ky. and Tenn. are very similar, neighbors in fact, but still somewhat different (the laws, such as for different medical professions, are certainly different!). Ohio and Indiana are very similar, but different, then again different from Illinois, etc., even different parts of same state have different cultures, climates, geography, etc. England and Scotland border each other, but are certainly different. The Cherokee and Shawnee both hunted in Ky., and were essentially neigbors, but much different customs and beliefs, etc., etc.
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