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I've said it before and I'll say it again...in terms of originality, Cleveland is lacking in terms of food. Any food that it does have is borrowed from other cities. There is not a single dish I can think of that has Cleveland printed on it. Meanwhile, St. Louis has its own style spare ribs, barbecue style, pizza style, and invented toasted ravioli, gooey butter cake, iced tea, the st. paul sandwich, also according to rumor at the world's fair, the hot dog and ice cream cone were invented here. Cleveland can't match St. Louis in terms of where food was invented. I have been going to Cleveland for over 20 years, and have yet to miss it whenever I return to the St. Louis food scene.
The Polish Boy sandwich is unique to Cleveland, as well as Cleveland Stadium Mustard. And yes, the West Side Market is the coolest foodie place in the Midwest....period.
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The Polish Boy sandwich is unique to Cleveland, as well as Cleveland Stadium Mustard. And yes, the West Side Market is the coolest foodie place in the Midwest....period.
Believe what you want, but take a look at all the original foods St. Louis can claim to have. I bet you're going to say Cleveland compares
No, St Louis does have a lot of original foods. That does not make it a better overall food city though. Cleveland certainly has a quality food scene, even though specific items were not created there.
Your comment earlier about Cleveland having no answer for the Hill is telling. Cleveland has a much larger Italian-American population than St Louis and a great Little Italy neighborhood (the best one in the Midwest if you ask me).
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You seem to be ignoring the undisputable fact that Cleveland doesn't have an original dish that is famous to my knowledge.
The fact of the matter is, having a "unique" food item means practically nothing. I never ripped on STL's food scene. I'm sure its great. That's the difference here. I gave my opinion about Cleveland, not shooting down ANY other cities, while you have to try and make derogatory remarks about Cleveland while boosting STL. To say Cleveland's food scene doesn't compare to STL is naive. And, yes, Cleveland has a great Little Italy with many good eateries.
considering that st. louis and cleveland are two of the most comparable cities in the country in most categories, it should be no surprise that the two cities have similar culinary scenes. the tit-for-tat arguing does not establish one as superior to the other.
when discussing italian neighborhoods, both cleveland's little italy and the hill in st. louis are among the most interesting of their kind in the united states, and both deserve equal respect.
considering that st. louis and cleveland are two of the most comparable cities in the country in most categories, it should be no surprise that the two cities have similar culinary scenes. the tit-for-tat arguing does not establish one as superior to the other.
when discussing italian neighborhoods, both cleveland's little italy and the hill in st. louis are among the most interesting of their kind in the united states, and both deserve equal respect.
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considering that st. louis and cleveland are two of the most comparable cities in the country in most categories, it should be no surprise that the two cities have similar culinary scenes. the tit-for-tat arguing does not establish one as superior to the other.
when discussing italian neighborhoods, both cleveland's little italy and the hill in st. louis are among the most interesting of their kind in the united states, and both deserve equal respect.
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I guess I never knew Cleveland's Little Italy matched up. I've only been to a few restaurants there...I guess I missed the good ones. Regardless, I will agree that Cleveland is VERY similar to St. Louis...Midwestern, architectural, in terms of cuisine, and in size. St. Louis, Chicago, Detroit, and Milwaukee are the most similar cities to Cleveland in the Midwest in terms of culture.
I also am incredibly shocked that Chicago came in 9th! Most of the time, one thinks of Italian-American cities, one thinks of New York and Chicago first.
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I guess I never knew Cleveland's Little Italy matched up. I've only been to a few restaurants there...I guess I missed the good ones. Regardless, I will agree that Cleveland is VERY similar to St. Louis...Midwestern, architectural, in terms of cuisine, and in size. St. Louis, Chicago, Detroit, and Milwaukee are the most similar cities to Cleveland in the Midwest in terms of culture.
I also am incredibly shocked that Chicago came in 9th! Most of the time, one thinks of Italian-American cities, one thinks of New York and Chicago first.
Chicago has a strong Italian population and some AMAZING Italian restaurants. The thing about Chicago is that its Italian fare is more scattered across the city rather than a great "Little Italy". Chicago's Little Italy isn't much to speak of. It is inhabited by a lot of UIC students and more recently a growing number of young professionals.
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