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Old 10-18-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I guess.
The link I posted gave supported information regarding the relationship between to AAVE and African speech. What more do you want?
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:06 PM
 
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My family is from Mississippi and I don't hear a particularly southern accent from myself since I grew up in Southern California, but then, I have always heard any particularly black dialect termed as 'ebonic' and subsequently insinuated as intellectually deficient, as if intelligence could be measured superficially. But yes, people regardless of ethnicity, may emulate the speech and vernacular of the area they grow up in. Blacks born during the past century, even if their families migrated north and west may exhibit even unknowingly, traces of southern grammar in their speech.
And sometimes we do recognize it. I'm fully aware that I seldom pronounce a difference between "pin" and "pen," but I pronounce "greasy" rhyming with either "fleecy" or "cheesy" depending on context.
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Old 10-24-2014, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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this is a typical Boston accent for the younger black generation

Milton Guard Juwan Gooding - YouTube

Most vowels shift to a flat "eh" sound as a sort of urban adaptation of the boston accent. Maybe to make it more hip or "hep" as the Boston kids would say
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Old 10-24-2014, 05:35 PM
 
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Here are New York Blacks with a typical Northeastern accent. Not a HINT of Southern in their speech at ALL. Not far at all from the way Whites in NYC talk. What is Southern here??


Jadakiss and Styles P Haze Vs Sour Pt 2 - YouTube

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Old 12-21-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Here are New York Blacks with a typical Northeastern accent. Not a HINT of Southern in their speech at ALL. Not far at all from the way Whites in NYC talk. What is Southern here??


Jadakiss and Styles P Haze Vs Sour Pt 2 - YouTube


Does not sound like NY whites to me.
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Old 12-21-2014, 03:39 PM
 
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Does not sound like NY whites to me.
When I listen more carefully, there are TINY remnants of Southernisms in their speech. Such as how they say "my" or "on" (mah and awn, respectively). Their vowels otherwise exhibit Northern patterns.
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Old 12-21-2014, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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Here are New York Blacks with a typical Northeastern accent. Not a HINT of Southern in their speech at ALL. Not far at all from the way Whites in NYC talk. What is Southern here??


Jadakiss and Styles P Haze Vs Sour Pt 2 - YouTube
I actually hear quite a bit of Southern accent here. There's also an obvious Northeastern influence as well, but it just sounds like a hybrid of both accents to my ears.

Definitely doesn't sound like a typical white Northeastern accent.
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Old 12-21-2014, 04:08 PM
 
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I actually hear quite a bit of Southern accent here. There's also an obvious Northeastern influence as well, but it just sounds like a hybrid of both accents to my ears.

Definitely doesn't sound like a typical white Northeastern accent.
Yeah, at second listen I realize there do exist Southernisms in NYC speech in Blacks. Some of the vowels aren't Northeastern. It is less pronounced in Blacks that have grown up around Whites (like Spike Lee who sounds VERY Northeastern).

In my opinion, a good example of a true hybrid would be Beanie Sigel (Philadelphia). His seems to be very 50/50.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxvt5VM8kTo
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Old 12-22-2014, 10:45 AM
 
Location: USA
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The thing I don't get is why are you so worried about it? Are you a mad scientist or something trying to analyze blacks to death?

It's not something you can just turn off and turn on unless you force yourself to fyi.

Do people ask whites why they talk like hillbillies all the time? Obviously, they don't sound like us and we don't sound like them and don't even want to.

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Old 12-22-2014, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Here are New York Blacks with a typical Northeastern accent. Not a HINT of Southern in their speech at ALL. Not far at all from the way Whites in NYC talk. What is Southern here??


Jadakiss and Styles P Haze Vs Sour Pt 2 - YouTube
Sorry, that sounds mostly southern. I would never mistake those accents for being white New Yorkers.
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