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Old 01-09-2015, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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Driving from Providence, RI to Boston was one of the most ridiculous things I have ever done. Cars everywhere and my average speed was about 50 mph.

Here in Iowa, I usually get on any major highway, set my cruise control at 75 mph and just enjoy the scenery for 3 hours

The drive between Des Moines and Minneapolis is one that I have done hundreds of times and I can pretty set my cruise control and go all the way without ever having to step on my brakes or reset my cruise control. I could never get used to living in the Northeast.
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Old 01-09-2015, 05:25 PM
 
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I agree with a lot of what the OP wrote and do miss a lot of what he mentions, especially the cultural aspects. Culture and history seem to be lacking in CA. The cities in the Northeast (especially NYC) and Washington, DC (though not exactly in the NE) are certainly chock full of many great museums.

I don't miss the four seasons though. I think the winter is MISERABLE (especially the last one) and I don't miss it for one second. I am greatly enjoying a more stable year round climate and don't miss the humidity AT ALL.

I do especially agree about the crime rates being a lot better in the Northeast, at least where I am originally from. I don't feel safe in California. I always have my eyes open, maybe it is the New Yorker in me.
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Old 01-09-2015, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I agree with a lot of what the OP wrote and do miss a lot of what he mentions, especially the cultural aspects. Culture and history seem to be lacking in CA. The cities in the Northeast (especially NYC) and Washington, DC (though not exactly in the NE) are certainly chock full of many great museums.

I don't miss the four seasons though. I think the winter is MISERABLE (especially the last one) and I don't miss it for one second. I am greatly enjoying a more stable year round climate and don't miss the humidity AT ALL.

I do especially agree about the crime rates being a lot better in the Northeast, at least where I am originally from. I don't feel safe in California. I always have my eyes open, maybe it is the New Yorker in me.
There is plenty of culture and history in California. You're just missing it.

You feel unsafe in all of California, or you feel unsafe in the specific city you live in?
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Old 01-09-2015, 05:46 PM
 
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There is plenty of culture and history in California. You're just missing it.

You feel unsafe in all of California, or you feel unsafe in the specific city you live in?
I agree there is some culture and history, but not as much as on the other coast. For me, it is kind of like comparing the USA to Europe, they just have more culture/history since they have been established longer. There aren't places in CA like the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC or Shelburne Museum near Burlington, Vermont. To me the aforementioned places are great cultural and historical resources.

I am in a safer part of Silicon Valley and I do subscribe to get the crime updates in our surrounding area. A LOT goes on around us. We notice an extreme wealth disparity, especially in the Bay Area and I ponder if that causes some of the issues, but that is not the subject of this thread so I won't go on about it.
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Old 01-09-2015, 06:10 PM
 
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I would say San Francisco is more "global" than DC.
lol you can say whatever you want buddy. look up any global city ranking. DC tops San Francisco in every ranking done. it goes NYC, LA, Chicago, DC, SF. in that order
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Old 01-09-2015, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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@NYinCA You do realize the Spanish got to California before the British got to Virginia, right?

Ever been to one of the Spanish missions? Or Campo de Cahuenga in Los Angeles, where Mexico surrendered to the United States and the peace treaty was signed for the Mexican/American War? Ever been to Olvera Street, or Old Town San Diego? What about in Northern California, specifically San Francisco, where the oldest Chinatown is located? BTW, Asia is very ancient.

I'll say it again, there's plenty of history and culture here. It just sounds like your biased opinion is getting in the way.
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Old 01-09-2015, 07:32 PM
 
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The New York metropolitan area is the cultural center of the US. California is #2.

I definitely think of both areas as highly desirable places to live. People live and breathe culture there.
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Old 01-09-2015, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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@NYinCA You do realize the Spanish got to California before the British got to Virginia, right?

Ever been to one of the Spanish missions? Or Campo de Cahuenga in Los Angeles, where Mexico surrendered to the United States and the peace treaty was signed for the Mexican/American War? Ever been to Olvera Street, or Old Town San Diego? What about in Northern California, specifically San Francisco, where the oldest Chinatown is located? BTW, Asia is very ancient.

I'll say it again, there's plenty of history and culture here. It just sounds like your biased opinion is getting in the way.
Native Californian here. The thing you have to realize is that the Spanish barely "developed" their colonial territories as compared to the English. The Spanish were about wealth/gold extraction where as the English were more focused on settlement/commerce/mercantilism. As a result, there are far more cultural artifacts in the forms of buildings, cities, etc. in the east than in the west from that early period in the continents development.

Now I do believe NYinCA's statement comparing the east coast to Europe in the same way he/she compared the east coast to California is a HUGE stretch. Far larger a gap in history between the former pair than the latter.....not even close.

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Old 01-09-2015, 08:44 PM
 
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lol you can say whatever you want buddy. look up any global city ranking. DC tops San Francisco in every ranking done. it goes NYC, LA, Chicago, DC, SF. in that order
Really every ranking? What about here Global city - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia , or here Miami is second Global Cities | The Wealth Report 2014 . Part of the issue is most people from the Bay Area consider San Jose as part of the same region as San Francisco. Many people commute from one two the other. So if you consider all of San Jose (Silicon Valley etc) to be part of the Bay Area then I would say the Bay Area is definitely more global than DC.
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Old 01-09-2015, 09:30 PM
 
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Driving from Providence, RI to Boston was one of the most ridiculous things I have ever done. Cars everywhere and my average speed was about 50 mph.

Here in Iowa, I usually get on any major highway, set my cruise control at 75 mph and just enjoy the scenery for 3 hours

The drive between Des Moines and Minneapolis is one that I have done hundreds of times and I can pretty set my cruise control and go all the way without ever having to step on my brakes or reset my cruise control. I could never get used to living in the Northeast.


Uh...

(for the record, ive been to Iowa many times and even did RAGBRAI)
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