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I think that is true as well. For example, Scarsdale is 9.2% Polish (and 15% Russian). Polish responses edge out the Irish (8.8%) and Italians (8%).
Great Neck is also 9% Polish and 12% Russian. Irish and Italians are 4.5% each.
The Polish-Jewish correlation might be a bit closer than I initially gave it credit for (4.5% of metro NYCers report Polish ancestry), but it's still nowhere near as reliable.
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Just using the city proper of Boston as an example, of the estimated 428,640 people who picked only one ancestry, 45,675 selected Irish. That's more than double any other group (Italians came in second at 20,206).
The Polish-Jewish correlation might be a bit closer than I initially gave it credit for (4.5% of metro NYCers report Polish ancestry), but it's still nowhere near as reliable.
I think it might be most true of NYC suburbs (where I grew up). I'd assume Scarsdale and Great Neck have few non-Jewish Poles. NYC city proper has a large non-Jewish Polish population.
Just using the city proper of Boston as an example, of the estimated 428,640 people who picked only one ancestry, 45,675 selected Irish. That's more than double any other group (Italians came in second at 20,206).
So roughly half of Boston Irish Americans are solely of Irish ancestry.
Interesting that it actually exceeds the Italians. Almost certainly higher there than anywhere else in the US. Unfortunate the Fact Finder isn't very user-friendly.
Philadelphia 61,982; 190,488 (33%)
San Francisco 19,308; 63,928 (30%)
Cook (Chicago) 148,802; 515,598 (29%)
Albany 20,494; 71,749 (29%)
Onondaga (Syracuse) 27,949; 106,121 (26%)
Baltimore city and county 37,865; 154,470 (25%)
Los Angeles 100,759; 415,100 (24%)
Cuyahoga (Cleveland) 39,186; 165,177 (24%)
Erie (Buffalo) 38,074; 161,775 (24%)
Allegheny (Pittsburgh) 55,491; 244,206 (23%)
St. Louis city and county 41,418; 180,833 (23%)
Not surprisingly, Boston really stands out here. Nationally, there are 9.8 million of single Irish ancestry out of 35 million declaring Irish ancestry (28%).
Using a Irish + Italian + Polish + Jewish measure (which obviously has some double-counting)
You could just take the largest for "total ancestry reported" and then take "single ancestry reported" for all other groups. That ensures mutual exclusivity to some degree. In the NYC metro, there are 2,060,219 people reporting Irish ancestry, but 623,776 reporting only Irish ancestry. So you've got 1,436,443 people reporting Irish ancestry in combination with something else. That "something else" is usually Italian.
New York is tricky because, as stated already, there is no Census category for "Jews" and there's also a lot of Jewish/Italian/Irish overlap. So it's impossible to get the numbers right down to the penny. But using mutually exclusive categories gets us into the parking lot of the ball park.
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The Polish-Jewish correlation might be a bit closer than I initially gave it credit for (4.5% of metro NYCers report Polish ancestry), but it's still nowhere near as reliable.
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The great majority of Polish Americans is and always has been Roman Catholic at least by baptism. Although pre-World War II Poland was a multi-ethnic and multiconfessional country, the process of immigration galvanized and re-created ethnic identities in the New World context. For example, Polish Jews, who also emigrated in large numbers during the same time period as their Catholic neighbors, largely identified as Jewish American or Russian Jewish in America. Their historical trajectory in the United States is quite different.
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