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Old 09-25-2015, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Just enjoy the numbers. Make observations if you want. Hope it sparks discussion, but Im not counting on it. Numbers are by CSA, not MSA. Ive included some smaller cities in Texas and California that have larger numbers of Hispanics.

The first set is total population numbers:

Group 1: Hispanic Meccas: Over 2 million Hispanic Residents

Los Angeles: 8,529,515
New York: 5,344,577
Miami: 2,567,076
Houston: 2,406,708
San Francisco Bay Area: 2,213,991
Chicago: 2,072,304
Dallas: 2,040,448

Group 2: Significant Hispanic Communities: Over 1 million Hispanic Residents

San Antonio: 1,272,592
Phoenix: 1,242,545
McAllen/Brownsville, TX: 1,150,762
Washington/Baltimore: 1,095,731
San Diego: 1,083,832

Group 3: Regional Hispanic Hub Communties: Over 500k Hispanic Residents

Boston: 803,055
Denver: 752,265
Orlando: 726,816
Philadelphia: 723,089
El Paso: 679,531
Atlanta: 675,042
Fresno: 588,537
Las Vegas: 575,245
Austin: 551,636
Sacramento: 530,130
Tampa: 517,432

Group 4: Minor Hispanic Communities in Major Cities and Majority Hispanic communities in smaller cities: Over 100k Hispanic Residents

Bakersfield: 450,820
Seattle: 434,602
Albuquerque: 433,245
Portland: 388,985
Salt Lake City: 350,550
Tucson: 339,278
Laredo: 254,835
Charlotte: 236,449
Detroit: 226,864
Raleigh: 224,904
Minneapolis: 210,443
Milwaukee: 206,529
Kansas City: 197,222
Waco/Killeen: 180,823
Oklahoma City: 167,101
Cleveland: 142,697
Indianapolis: 139,024
Nashville: 129,812
Midland/Odessa: 125,986
Lubbock: 115,864
New Orleans: 112,988
Jacksonville: 110,970
Reno: 101,983

Group 5: Small Hispanic Communites from cities that are talked about on CD: Less than 100k Hispanic Residents

Tulsa: 98,202
Tyler/Longview: 86,263
St. Louis: 81,012
Columbus: 80,945
Amarillo: 76,564
Memphis: 70,718
Cincinnati: 63,223
Birmingham: 53,872
Dalton, GA: 40,915
Pittsburgh: 40,873
Anchorage: 31,397

The second set of numbers shows in Immigration into Metro Areas from Latin America in 2013. Thats all that available so far:

New York: 73,141
Miami: 58,017
Los Angeles: 35,424
Houston: 14,544
Washington/Baltimore: 11,720
Dallas: 10,261
Chicago: 9,424
Boston: 8,971
San Francisco Bay Area: 8,126
San Diego: 6,781
Orlando: 6,465
Atlanta: 5,808
Phoenix: 5,452
Philadelphia: 4,046
Las Vegas: 3,669
Tampa: 3,525

Ill have more data to come including breakdowns of different nationalities. I dont have to do it right now.

Last edited by Acntx; 09-27-2015 at 05:45 PM.. Reason: Added Milwaukee
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Old 09-25-2015, 06:31 PM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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Good thread, too bad it won't generate much discussion because it's as clear cut as it can be

I think the addition of San Joaquin County (Stockton) into SFBA really pushed the numbers of Hispanics up - obviously a county that still has a huge agricultural presence in a border state is going to have a lot of Hispanics, but it ended up leapfrogging Dallas and Chicago.

The numbers of Hispanics in the NYC area are absolutely exploding.

Washington/Baltimore hitting over 1 million so quickly is also cool to see from a demographic view.

I wonder how things are going to change with decreasing Latin American birthrates. Unlike Asians, more educated Latin Americans tend to stay in their home countries and immigrate less out. As opportunities increase in their home countries, most of the Hispanic growth will soon come from Hispanic children being born (which, again, is decreasing).
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Old 09-25-2015, 06:47 PM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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Group 1: Hispanic Meccas: Over 2 million Hispanic Residents

Los Angeles: 8,529,515
New York: 5,344,577
Miami: 2,567,076
Houston: 2,406,708
San Francisco Bay Area: 2,213,991
Chicago: 2,072,304
Dallas: 2,040,448
These numbers are confusing. For example Chicago's ENTIRE population is only 2,722,389. So the entire city is Hispanic? Not.

Chicago (city) QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
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Old 09-25-2015, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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These numbers are confusing. For example Chicago's ENTIRE population is only 2,722,389. So the entire city is Hispanic? Not.

Chicago (city) QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
The numbers are by CSA, not city proper. Chicagos CSA is between 9 and 10 million.
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Old 09-25-2015, 07:08 PM
 
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Good thread, too bad it won't generate much discussion because it's as clear cut as it can be

I think the addition of San Joaquin County (Stockton) into SFBA really pushed the numbers of Hispanics up - obviously a county that still has a huge agricultural presence in a border state is going to have a lot of Hispanics, but it ended up leapfrogging Dallas and Chicago.

The numbers of Hispanics in the NYC area are absolutely exploding.

Washington/Baltimore hitting over 1 million so quickly is also cool to see from a demographic view.

I wonder how things are going to change with decreasing Latin American birthrates. Unlike Asians, more educated Latin Americans tend to stay in their home countries and immigrate less out. As opportunities increase in their home countries, most of the Hispanic growth will soon come from Hispanic children being born (which, again, is decreasing).
Indeed it did. Eventually, Dallas will get close again. Chicago probably won't.

Dallas will pass Chicago in the next year or two for sure.
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Old 09-25-2015, 07:24 PM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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Indeed it did. Eventually, Dallas will get close again. Chicago probably won't.

Dallas will pass Chicago in the next year or two for sure.
Yeah, that is assuming of course, Chicago doesn't add more areas (IE Rockford) that have somewhat of a significant Hispanic population. But that really is just splitting hairs.

For all intents and purposes, the 2-2.5 million range all operate in a tier where the Hispanic populations have relatively similar statutes, except for Miami of course where it's raised.

I wonder if this takes into account people who are half-Hispanic or have Hispanic blood somewhere down the line. The largest group of interethnic marriages seems to be Hispanic-White (non-Hispanic).
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Old 09-25-2015, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Yeah, that is assuming of course, Chicago doesn't add more areas (IE Rockford) that have somewhat of a significant Hispanic population. But that really is just splitting hairs.

For all intents and purposes, the 2-2.5 million range all operate in a tier where the Hispanic populations have relatively similar statutes, except for Miami of course where it's raised.

I wonder if this takes into account people who are half-Hispanic or have Hispanic blood somewhere down the line. The largest group of interethnic marriages seems to be Hispanic-White (non-Hispanic).
Thats true, however Dallas could somehow suck Waco into its CSA and add another 90k Hispanics. I think that would be ridiculous, but after watching how some of these CSA have grown to include towns and cities hours drive apart, anything is possible.

To me its kind of a tier system. You have:

Tier 1:

LA
NYC
Miami

Tier 2a:

Houston

Tier 2b:

Bay Area
Dallas/Fort Worth
Chicagoland

Tier 3:

San Diego
San Antonio
Phoenix
Washington DC

Tier 4:

Orlando
Boston
Philadelphia
Atlanta

and then the rest. I don't include the Rio Grande Valley because there is literally no racial diversity there.
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Old 09-25-2015, 08:01 PM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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Thats true, however Dallas could somehow suck Waco into its CSA and add another 90k Hispanics. I think that would be ridiculous, but after watching how some of these CSA have grown to include towns and cities hours drive apart, anything is possible.
That would depend how many people commute from Rockford to CHI, and from Waco to DFW's core. I would hope not very many, since CHI and DFW have what seems to be a myth on the West Coast - cheap housing - within striking distance of most job centers.

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To me its kind of a tier system. You have:

Tier 1:

LA
NYC
Miami

Tier 2a:

Houston

Tier 2b:

Bay Area
Dallas/Fort Worth
Chicagoland

Tier 3:

San Diego
San Antonio
Phoenix
Washington DC

Tier 4:

Orlando
Boston
Philadelphia
Atlanta

and then the rest. I don't include the Rio Grande Valley because there is literally no racial diversity there.
I can co-sign to this. I haven't been out to Houston yet, but why the differentiation between 2A and 2B? What are the differences you find?

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Old 09-25-2015, 08:05 PM
 
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I can co-sign to this. I haven't been out to Houston yet, but why the differentiation between 2A and 2B? What are the differences you find?
The biggest difference between them is the diversity among hispanics combined with concentration (Greater Houston is over 35% Hispanic) and influence (Houston has the most economic connections with Latin America and is United's main hub to Latin America among tier 2). Houston is a step ahead of the other three in those, but not to the point of being one of the top 3.
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Old 09-25-2015, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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I don't include the Rio Grande Valley because there is literally no racial diversity there.
You must be kidding. No white people =/= No diversity. On top of Whites and Hispanics, There is a wealth of Native American tribes along the valley. Not to mention archaic Spaniard-Puebloans, which are "other than Mexican" hispanics; the United States' own genesis of 'Latin Americans' (The Nuevomexicano race).
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