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View Poll Results: Which will become the third largest metropolitan area by 2020?
DFW 59 28.10%
Chicago 151 71.90%
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I was in DFW last week and I was very disappointed. I was expecting to see this buzzing city but instead I didnt even know when the city limits started. It such a quite town. Its hard to believe that the region has 6 million people. I loved the rolling hills though....it was a nice change coming from Houston, I also noticed the new cowboys stadium...it looks incredible. I just dont see DFW passing up Chicago in ANY thing...not soon atleast. DFW needs some skyscrapers to give it some life....Houston isnt perfect by any means....but Houston is a vibrant city...and actually feels like a massive city. DFW was very different.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM - Summerlin, NV
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I was in DFW last week and I was very disappointed. I was expecting to see this buzzing city but instead I didnt even know when the city limits started. It such a quite town. Its hard to believe that the region has 6 million people. I loved the rolling hills though....it was a nice change coming from Houston, I also noticed the new cowboys stadium...it looks incredible. I just dont see DFW passing up Chicago in ANY thing...not soon atleast. DFW needs some skyscrapers to give it some life....Houston isnt perfect by any means....but Houston is a vibrant city...and actually feels like a massive city. DFW was very different.
I guess every one has a different view but thats a massive metro, i could see it passing in the future.

Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington jumped +19.05% in growth.

It gained nearly a million people since 2000,

6,145,037 --2007
5,161,520 --2000

Did the Chicago Metro see growth like that.. i dont think so.. +4.68% is nothing.




I will give it about 25 years or less until it passes chicago's metro.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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I was in DFW last week and I was very disappointed. I was expecting to see this buzzing city but instead I didnt even know when the city limits started. It such a quite town. Its hard to believe that the region has 6 million people. I loved the rolling hills though....it was a nice change coming from Houston, I also noticed the new cowboys stadium...it looks incredible. I just dont see DFW passing up Chicago in ANY thing...not soon atleast. DFW needs some skyscrapers to give it some life....Houston isnt perfect by any means....but Houston is a vibrant city...and actually feels like a massive city. DFW was very different.
What???
DFW quiet?? I wish... What part were you in???
I mean the outer parts maybe...but Houston feeling like a massive city and being wayy more vibrant then DFW?
Yeah right... Houston and DFW are clones of each other, minus a few details...
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Did the Chicago Metro see growth like that.. i dont think so.. +4.68% is nothing.
Would you shut it already? 4.68% in a region that has almost 10 million people is quite a bit! A 4% jump in ABQ might not be anything, but 4% in a region as large as Chicago is pretty dang decent. If we had a 19% jump, could you imagine how many people that would be? No place this large could ever have a jump that big. Do the math.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:27 AM
 
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I think one issue is just how the cities are layed out. Chicago basically has its butt up against Lake Michigan, and everything kinda "spills" out of the extremely high density downtown and surrounding city. It's kinda like the region is tilted, and everything kinda flows in towards the lake. The closer you get, the more extreme the urban environment. The outlying areas 50 miles from the loop are extremely sprawly, and is mostly just tract housing and strip malls, tollways and big roads.

DFW, which I think is an awesome city, loved each time I visited, developed quite differently from almost all other areas in the country. You have two nodes that are 30 miles apart, and things grew out of both of them at fast rates. As a result you have the two downtown areas that are smaller than what you'd expect out of a region of 6 million, and then mile after mile of housing and sprawl. You can go 70 miles from southwest FW and drive up through built up areas until you get to Plano.

DWF is also chopped up by a ton of huge freeways/frontage roads, and there are a lot of green zones, Trinity River preserves, etc that kinda fragment the region. They just grew differently, and to a visitor appear very dissimilar.

I think Dallas will keep growing fast, but at the same time just because it's 6.1 million now, doesn't mean it HAS to crack 10 million within a few decades.

We're looking at this from a 2008 point of view. Chicago grew from a metro of 4.4 million in 1940 to 6.7 million in 1960. You would have expected the region to grow to 12.4 million by today, but it's still just a little below 10 million. Growth numbers change for different reasons, if they stay the same as they are now you'd be talking about a Dallas area of over 9 million people in only 20 years. That would be such a sprawled out huge area - and the traffic!!
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM - Summerlin, NV
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Would you shut it already? 4.68% in a region that has almost 10 million people is quite a bit! A 4% jump in ABQ might not be anything, but 4% in a region as large as Chicago is pretty dang decent. If we had a 19% jump, could you imagine how many people that would be? No place this large could ever have a jump that big. Do the math.
No you should shut it... you dont know much about this at all, your lost.. Chicago is losing people.. thats not big growth, i think you need to do your math..
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:57 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Ummm..... guys, remember, DFW isn't a city, it's a group of cities.
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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No you should shut it... you dont know much about this at all, your lost.. Chicago is losing people.. thats not big growth, i think you need to do your math..
Yeah, ok, believe what you want. 4.68% growth in a region with 9+ million people is a lot of people when you do the math, something you seem incapable of doing.
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:07 PM
 
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No you should shut it... you dont know much about this at all, your lost.. Chicago is losing people.. thats not big growth, i think you need to do your math..
if you did yours you'd realize its not.

Dallas Population
2000:1,188,580 up 18%
2008: 1,300,310 up 9.4%

up 111,700 people

Chicago Population

2000: 2,896,016
2008: 2,997,461

up 101445 people

a difference of 10,000 in just the city alone. And Remember Dallas is cheaper to live in.


Dallas cant pass up Chicago..it should be more worried about Houston. GROWTH WONT LAST FOREVER. If it did, Chicago would be the largest city in the world with how quickly it boomed. Dallas will have its 15 minutes now, but it will be over by 2030-2040 at the latest. It will probably be around 8 million in metro, if that.
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Old 10-14-2008, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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if you did yours you'd realize its not.

Dallas Population
2000:1,188,580 up 18%
2008: 1,300,310 up 9.4%

up 111,700 people

Chicago Population

2000: 2,896,016
2008: 2,997,461

up 101445 people

a difference of 10,000 in just the city alone. And Remember Dallas is cheaper to live in.


Dallas cant pass up Chicago..it should be more worried about Houston. GROWTH WONT LAST FOREVER. If it did, Chicago would be the largest city in the world with how quickly it boomed. Dallas will have its 15 minutes now, but it will be over by 2030-2040 at the latest. It will probably be around 8 million in metro, if that.
Um, why did you bring up city population stats when we're talking about the metro areas? That simply had nothing to do with the entire thread.
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