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Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Originally Posted by DubbleT
Kentucky.
When I lived in the upper midwest people there considered KY t be southern. When I moved to the deep south and referred to KY as a southern state, people there were quick to correct me that it was not southern. Ever since I've felt bad for KY that no one seems to want to claim it, it's a beautiful state.
Almost all of West Virginia is on the same geographical plane as Virginia, for the very good reason that is was part of Virginia. The nothern panhandle is less than 3% of the state's area. It is not part of the northeast, as the latest sociological study has shown.
Exactly. Though parts of Kentucky and West Virginia may have influences from other regions, I'd still classify both states as Southern states as a whole. That is, they are definitely more Southern than non-Southern in my eyes.
Almost all of West Virginia is on the same geographical plane as Virginia, for the very good reason that is was part of Virginia. The nothern panhandle is less than 3% of the state's area. It is not part of the northeast, as the latest sociological study has shown.
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Originally Posted by TarHeelTerritory
Exactly. Though parts of Kentucky and West Virginia may have influences from other regions, I'd still classify both states as Southern states as a whole. That is, they are definitely more Southern than non-Southern in my eyes.
Texas has elements of the Deep South, Midwest, and Southwest
California has elements of the Southwest and the Pacific Northwest
Idaho is a curious case.. I often hear it's classified as a Pacific Northwest state but culturally, it's more similar to Montana, Wyoming, Utah, etc than California, Oregon, and Washington.
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Idaho is a curious case.. I often hear it's classified as a Pacific Northwest state but culturally, it's more similar to Montana, Wyoming, Utah, etc than California, Oregon, and Washington.
I would actually argue that, according to what I've heard across the board from friends and strangers alike, eastern Washington and Oregon are quite similar to Idaho.
In the case of Washington and Oregon, it seems to be the coasts that overshadow the inner core of the states rather than define them. Much like New York or Virginia in the east.
The American South
Georgia
South Carolina
Alabama
Mississippi
Tennessee
North Carolina
Louisiana
Arkansas (including Missouri south of U.S. Route 60)
Kentucky (minus Cincinnati suburbs, including Missouri Bootheel))
North Florida (north of Orlando)
South Virginia (from just north of Charlottesville on southward, including most of Shenandoah Valley and the part of West Virginia south of Charleston)
PA to me is different. Philly is obviously Northeast. Central PA like Harrisburg/Lancaster/York is Appalachia-lite. Western PA is a mix of Appalachia and Great Lakes. However, the difference is that Pittsburgh and Harrisburg play a very important roles in the state. Buffalo and Syracuse are not as important to the state of NY as NYC/LI/Hudson Valley/Albany/areas in the eastern part of the state. Philly is PA's premier city, but each region of the state has something that contributes, and Philly does not overpower PA in the same way NYC's metro overpowers the state of NY.
This is a good point that Pennsylvania is a state that incorporates different regional influences. But the south central part of the state (around Harrisburg, Lancaster and York) is not Appalachian in the least. It is more of a "megalopolis-lite" region, with a built environment that resembles the large Northeast cities, on a smaller scale. The economy is also very well diversified with manufacturing, agriculture, government, all types of services and no coal mining whatsoever. South central PA has consistently low unemployment and except for some clusters of poverty in the urban cores (that are more culturally diverse than just about anywhere in Appalachia), is a very solidly middle class region.
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