What are some of the best Southern California alternatives? (credit, pros and cons)

[luvtolearncities]

Southern California has a lot of pros and cons, few people would debate that...
For someone looking to move, but to keep some of the pros, like resources (academic, career, medical, social, etc), mild winters, and so on... What are the best places to go to? Considering cost, and not considering cost- both options.

[FalstaffBlues]

What are the Cons you are trying to avoid?

[luvtolearncities]

Cons: extreme materialism, extreme traffic, high housing prices

[Harpaint]

Thing is, the Pros are usually what creates the Cons you mention.

[FalstaffBlues]

Originally Posted by luvtolearncities

Cons: extreme materialism, extreme traffic, high housing prices

Maybe the gulf coast? The resources that you mention will not be as strong here, but neither will the competition for them.

Obviously Houston, but also Lake Charles, NOLA, Mobile, Tallahasse. Pejoratively known as the "Redneck riviera."

[Count David]

Phoenix reminds me of the Inland Empire a TON.

Like a more affordable, more modest, less traffic, more amenities version.

[luvtolearncities]

Good point about the pros potentially causing the cons...
... and thanks for the suggestions so far

[Bluefox]

I don’t think there is some Shangri-La that is a respite for former Californians, and if there was, it was discovered by ex-Californians long ago and is no longer that.

Your best indicator is where most Californians move when they get fed up with living there: Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Arizona, Utah, Nevada, Montana, Colorado, and Texas. Maybe North Carolina, more recently.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by luvtolearncities

Southern California has a lot of pros and cons, few people would debate that...
For someone looking to move, but to keep some of the pros, like resources (academic, career, medical, social, etc), mild winters, and so on... What are the best places to go to? Considering cost, and not considering cost- both options.

A good alternative to Southern California?

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