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Old 02-17-2023, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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Cincinnati was known for urbanity and conservatism, but I'm not sure how true that is anymore.
LOL Jerry Springer was once the Mayor of Cincinnati, and there hasn't been a Republican mayor there since the early 1970's. Maybe some of the Democrat mayors have been conservative (e.g. there was once a pro-life wing of the party) but we'd be talking about a generation ago.
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Old 02-17-2023, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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You probably won't find many conservative cities. But there are a lot of mixed/centrist cities (i.e. Salt Lake City).
I think that's true. Cities, because you have people living literally on top of and cheek-by-jowl with each other, attract people who aren't generally conservative to begin with.
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Old 02-17-2023, 01:49 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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Provo, maybe? The narrow valleys and larger than average household populations create more density than would normally be there.
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Old 02-17-2023, 06:30 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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I wonder what "dense" means to people who say Phoenix or Oklahoms City.
It could mean the fact that Phoenix has a much denser urban area than places like Boston.


Anyway, does anyone else get the feeling that the answer to this is probably Miami but people just don't want to say it for whatever reason?
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Old 02-17-2023, 08:01 PM
 
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It could mean the fact that Phoenix has a much denser urban area than places like Boston.


Anyway, does anyone else get the feeling that the answer to this is probably Miami but people just don't want to say it for whatever reason?
My question is basically asking which cities still retain an element of urban, working class conservatism of the 20th century variety. Miami, with its massive influx of immigrants in the past 50 years or so doesn’t really fit what I’m thinking of. Not to mention it’s only like 10% urban
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Old 02-17-2023, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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My question is basically asking which cities still retain an element of urban, working class conservatism of the 20th century variety. Miami, with its massive influx of immigrants in the past 50 years or so doesn’t really fit what I’m thinking of. Not to mention it’s only like 10% urban
The urban working class conservatives were the immigrant class in the 20th century, right?
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Old 02-18-2023, 12:22 AM
 
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The urban working class conservatives were the immigrant class in the 20th century, right?
for the most part, sure. I don't think thats totally relevant though. The post-war period is when America cemented itself as what we know it as today - even if very few of these impressions of what life was like back then still hold true. I'm basically asking about "time capsule" cities, that's all
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Old 02-18-2023, 04:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA>Tijuana, BC>San Antonio, TX
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If you go off of a list of Republican mayors for the largest cities in the US. The top 10 largest cities would be.

1. Jacksonville, Fl.
2. Fort Worth, Tx.
3. OKC, Ok.
4. Fresno, CA.
5. Mesa, Az.
6. Omaha, Ne.
7. Colorado Springs, Co.
8. Virginia Beach, Va.
9. Miami, Fl.
10. Tulsa, Ok.

It's interesting that in liberal California, Bakersfield and Fresno consistently vote for Republican mayors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States
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Old 02-18-2023, 04:14 PM
 
Location: West Seattle
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Just remembered we had a thread here a while back where someone mapped out the "urban white working class" enclaves in the US, as assessed by:

- Minimum 70% white population
- Minimum 5,400 people per square mile (i.e. top 25% for population density in the US)
- Below national average socioeconomic status

Most of these places skew fairly conservative, at least by urban standards.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/gene...ing-class.html
Map: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6839...YVC_PSBZd96qg0
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Old 02-18-2023, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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It could mean the fact that Phoenix has a much denser urban area than places like Boston.


Anyway, does anyone else get the feeling that the answer to this is probably Miami but people just don't want to say it for whatever reason?
While many in the Cuban and other South American immigrants in Miami Dade vote Republican because of they experienced oppression from communist governments or other reasons specific to them, is the area really 'socially conservative'? That might be true for the metro but unlikely for the city proper.
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