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Old 06-03-2023, 09:55 AM
 
Location: On the Waterfront
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Climatology, if you're going to live outdoors/sustain yourself would you choose Boston or Minneapolis? Economics of course is another key factor.
I'm well aware and my thought was more in reference to why Tampa over say, Miami, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, all larger, more urbanized, warm weather cities/metros. Not to mention the larger cities it's ahead of like Seattle and San Diego.

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Old 06-03-2023, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Interesting how high Washington D.C. and Chicago are, but Boston, Baltimore, Philadelphia aren't listed.
Boston, Baltimore & Philly have extensive homelessness policies, out reach programs and housing implementations.

Makes sense that the West Coast and ares of high cost of living dominate this. They recently did a count in SD and found in excess of +2k in just downtown proper and yes, it's as bad as it sounds on the ground.
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Old 06-03-2023, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Was just in Boston and saw exactly one homeless person. Bad weather helps, but there’s also a respect for public space West Coast cities don’t have.
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Old 06-03-2023, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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No, but a lot of cities “solve” or lessen their problem by giving one way bus tickets out of town to their homeless.
This has nothing to do with the post I responded to. Getting tickets out of town isn't homeless people choosing to move to a warm, expensive city.
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Old 06-03-2023, 03:03 PM
 
Location: PNW
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There's homeless people- couch surfing at friends' and relatives' places or in a shelter, and unhoused people, who live outdoors, often in tents. On the west coast, there are more unhoused homeless. They're visible living on the streets, in parks and under the overpasses.
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Old 06-03-2023, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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A Top 10 with the majority being West Coast cities.

Tampa looks like the surprising entry to me.
I was surprised about Tampa too, to be honest, but makes me wonder if the city of Miami buses the homeless to other parts of FL/U.S and that's why Tampa has so many (along with other cities busing them, etc..)

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"We house tonight in our community a little over 8,000 individuals about the size of Wynwood," said Book.
Not sure if they mean 8,000 are homeless or if it accounts for homeless people + those on the brink. Regardless, this is more than double the numbers reported to the public, 30% increase in new homeless people.

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/m...those-in-need/

On the topic of the stats posted here, I mentioned this elsewhere before but if they do not count "invisible homeless" then the stats are meaningless. You need to see the whole picture and we really need government to step up and reduce homelessness and invest in mental health/healthcare programs and affordable housing.
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Old 06-03-2023, 04:32 PM
 
Location: South St Louis
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I think the article is ridiculous. Cities well-known for homelessness (Las Vegas, Miami, Portland, etc) aren’t even among the top 11?
Using the homeless numbers given and comparing those to each city’s total population, here are the calculated homeless percentages for each city:
1. New York, less than 2% of 8,622,357
2. Chicago, 2.5% of 2,670,406
3. Washington, 8.5% of 670,050
4. Los Angeles, 1% of 4,085,014
5. San Francisco, 5.3% of 715,717
6. Tampa, 4% of 393,264
7. Seattle, 1.5% of 725,487
8. San Jose, less than 1% of 1,036,242
9. Oakland, 2.1% of 422,994
10. San Diego, less than 1% of 1,469,490
11. Denver, less than 1% of 699,288
What looks terribly out of place here? All percentages are under 5.5%. Oh, wait. Washington is a whopping 8.5%?? Must be the most dreadfully poor city with no job opportunities!
What else? The biggest city in the nation— and one that’s among the very most expensive cities in which to live— has less than 2% of its residents homeless? Sounds perposterous.
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Old 06-04-2023, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Trying to count the homeless seems like a tall order for many reasons. How do you count drifters and transients, many of whom are eager to avoid interaction with authorities?
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Old 06-04-2023, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Trying to count the homeless seems like a tall order for many reasons. How do you count drifters and transients, many of whom are eager to avoid interaction with authorities?
Most counts are done at night
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Old 06-04-2023, 11:09 AM
 
Location: South St Louis
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Oh, and I can tell you with certainty that the government’s actual definition of “homeless” is NOT simply “a person living on the street or in a homeless shelter.” It is “a person without a permanent address.” By definition, this includes any person in any temporary living situation, such as someone staying with a friend, or someone formerly independent who has moved back with family. Therefore, the true number of homeless is far higher than what gets put out there.
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