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I know definitions aren't subjective. There are definitions and subjective opinions. It isn't that hard to understand what I mean. And yes, I really am a teacher...lol. I don't know why I would lie about that.
I don't know why you would either...but you JUST stated that the definition of rural is subjective, depending on where you're from. Did you not? And now, you agree that definitions are not subjective. WHICH IS IT?
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Incorrect...a town of 15,000 isn't rural - it's small. Rural areas are large and isolated places that are sparsely populated. It doesn't mean whatever you want it to mean.
Someone who grew up in Manhattan, where they were surrounded by millions of people everyday will probably think that a town of 15,000 where there's probably an acre of land for each house, will think that's "the country."
Kind of like the people I know from outside of NYS. When we go to Long Island, they still think it's the "city." But to us, it's suburbs. People will have different opinions about what's urban, suburb, and rural.
Let's go back to suburbs. In the growing Charleston area, the east side is contained by the Atlantic Ocean, with Folly Beach being the farthest suburb, but that is only about an 11 or so mile drive from downtown.
To the south, they go about 19 miles, to the turnoff in Ravenel, SC (of US 17 and SC 165). To the north of Charleston, the suburbs probably go the farthest, as Summerville is about 25 miles from most of the immediate Charleston area, and Moncks Corner is about 32 miles from downtown.
To the northeast, you have Mt. Pleasant, but the Francis Marion National Forest contains everything.
Someone who grew up in Manhattan, where they were surrounded by millions of people everyday will probably think that a town of 15,000 where there's probably an acre of land for each house, will think that's "the country."
Kind of like the people I know from outside of NYS. When we go to Long Island, they still think it's the "city." But to us, it's suburbs. People will have different opinions about what's urban, suburb, and rural.
Again...you are incorrect. And now you're back to claiming that definitions are based on "people's opinions" - in other words, subjective. You already agreed that they aren't subjective...it can't be both.
The problem is that you come across as if people in NYC are different than people everywhere else - ESPECIALLY any location in the South. Reality is that people, the South included, are individuals...some are smart, some aren't; some are educated some aren't; some are wealthy and successful some aren't; some live in the city some don't. It doesn't matter where they live, not even if it's NEW YORK CITY.
Someone residing in a city like Richmond would have the same ideas of what is urban/suburban/rural as someone residing in Toronto because there is a defined image of each. People don't just decide what words mean on their own - well, people of at least average intelligence anyway.
For Richmond about a 20 mi radius. Ashland to the North, New Kent County to the east, Goochland and Powhatan to the West, and Chesterfield on our South.
Again...you are incorrect. And now you're back to claiming that definitions are based on "people's opinions" - in other words, subjective. You already agreed that they aren't subjective...it can't be both.
The problem is that you come across as if people in NYC are different than people everywhere else - ESPECIALLY any location in the South. Reality is that people, the South included, are individuals...some are smart, some aren't; some are educated some aren't; some are wealthy and successful some aren't; some live in the city some don't. It doesn't matter where they live, not even if it's NEW YORK CITY.
Someone residing in a city like Richmond would have the same ideas of what is urban/suburban/rural as someone residing in Toronto because there is a defined image of each. People don't just decide what words mean on their own - well, people of at least average intelligence anyway.
What's the definition of definition?
Be careful not to cause a rip in the space-time comtinuum when attempting to answer that question.
Let's go back to suburbs. In the growing Charleston area, the east side is contained by the Atlantic Ocean, with Folly Beach being the farthest suburb, but that is only about an 11 or so mile drive from downtown.
To the south, they go about 19 miles, to the turnoff in Ravenel, SC (of US 17 and SC 165). To the north of Charleston, the suburbs probably go the farthest, as Summerville is about 25 miles from most of the immediate Charleston area, and Moncks Corner is about 32 miles from downtown.
To the northeast, you have Mt. Pleasant, but the Francis Marion National Forest contains everything.
The best I can tell...
The farthest area of suburban Berkeley County would be St. Stephen...49 miles from Charleston.
The town farthest south in Charleston County is Edisto...43 miles from Charleston.
The farthest burb to the northwest looks like St. George, in corner of Dorchester County...53 miles from Charleston.
For Richmond about a 20 mi radius. Ashland to the North, New Kent County to the east, Goochland and Powhatan to the West, and Chesterfield on our South.
South: Jarratt, VA in Sussex County...58 miles.
North: Port Royal, VA in Caroline County...52 miles.
East: Farmville, VA in Cumberland County...64 miles.
West: New Kent, VA in New Kent County...31 miles.
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I remember I ran into some people who even said Cortland (where I went to school) was a suburb of Syracuse.
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