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Old 09-17-2009, 09:07 AM
 
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Cue americans fapping about how much more hard working they are than the euro socialists.

Oh, wait...
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:43 AM
 
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Americans are no more hard working than most other countries. In Europe they take more vacations, but when they work, they work. Unlike most places where I have worked in this country where people will put in a few hours, then slack off for a good amount of time.
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:26 PM
 
Location: (Lyndon) Louisville KY USA
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Because slavery is illegal but the top 5% still needs slaves
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:17 PM
 
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I say it's because Americans are known for taking care of things themselves instead of letting the "government" take care of it for them.
They'd rather have a choice than rely on "government" programs...well most of us anyway.

I put "government" in quotes because so many people forget that the "government" is really ourselves.
We elect these people to lead our country. So the big bad government is really the big bad us.

And....we pay far less in taxes than other countries.
So let me ask you this. Are corporations more responsible than the "government"? They are for-profit machines whose only goal is to make money and preferably more and more each year. That is what Americans have decided to rely on.
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:08 PM
 
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All you teachers ever do is whine, whine, whine, the avg. teacher in my state retires in their mid to late 50's with gov't pension and health insurance, far better than most.
I sure wish there really was such a thing as reincarnation so that YOU could come back as a teacher and deal with the parents and their offspring that fail the schools... Then you'd understand why many teachers want to retire in their late 50s.
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Americans have been sold a bill of goods by their Politicians, Deregulation allowed them to Triple the Wealth of the top 1% while destroying the middle class. They are crushed by debt and usury interest that the Congress refuses to regulate. A Middle Class that used to be able to live comfortably on what Dad made now both parents work for minimum wage so they can but Chinese Crap at Slave Mart.
Yet they fear Socialism, what a laugh
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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I sure wish there really was such a thing as reincarnation so that YOU could come back as a teacher and deal with the parents and their offspring that fail the schools... Then you'd understand why many teachers want to retire in their late 50s.

Exactly...he should see what I deal with teaching troubled kids in the south Bronx everyday.
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:44 PM
 
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The main reason I'm working so much now is so I can move out of Florida. There's so many more cons than pros here. Other than that personally I have no idea. Florida employers could care less about good workers, there's really no reward any way you look at it, that's why so many people flee FL and never look back.
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:50 PM
 
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Would you mind elaborating? Why do we value work so much? Do we really value work or just some of the fruits of the labor?

I mean, we pay some of the people who work the hardest, the least. And we pay some who work the least the most.

It seems like we value wealth, status, fame, and glamour. I'd say we value that a hell of a lot more than hard work. If that were the case then loggers, farmers, janitors and other labor jobs would pay a lot better.

It's called supply and demand.

It doesn't require a lot of brain power or education to be a fruit picker. There are literally millions of people in the US who could do it. Is it physically difficult work? You bet, but most reasonably healthy people's bodies would adapt to it in a few weeks or months. However, not a lot of people can be a half way decent CEO and the demand for goods produced by actors and musicians is what allows them to make millions of dollars a year, so it is the people who buy their goods that allow them to live lavish lifestyles.

And a lot of loggers make good money and most farmers aren't poor. This is not the 1880s anymore.
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Old 09-19-2009, 11:08 PM
 
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Americans are no more hard working than most other countries. In Europe they take more vacations, but when they work, they work. Unlike most places where I have worked in this country where people will put in a few hours, then slack off for a good amount of time.
I think this is true. I've read that roughly two hours of the American workday are squandered by goofing off, slacking, and meeting of dubious importance. Like I stated, not all of these are the fault of the worker and that much of it has to do with how the management utilizes time.

Also, I've read that shorter work hours and longer breaks might be more productive. When you work for several hours straight without an allowed break, you find any excuse to not do something for even a few seconds. I know this from personal experience. So shorter work hours might in the long run be more effective.
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