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Old 06-21-2010, 08:03 AM
 
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I received this in my inbox and checked the Texas and Oregon codes (I don't really feel like checking them all). I must live under a rock because I had no clue this was going on. Texas offers an elective removal of the testicles at the states expense. Very interesting.

"Eight states allow chemical or surgical castration of sex offenders. They are: California, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Montana, Oregon, Texas, and Wisconsin. "

Eight States Allow Castrating Sex Offenders
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:12 AM
 
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This is a good thing.

Castrating sex offenders does not kill them. It simply removes one (two?) of the main driving forces behind their inappropriately aggressive sexual behavior. A guy can live without his testicles, and if he rapes somebody he not only deserves to live without them, society would be safer if he had them removed.


Though this should not be a broad-brush law, applying to all sex offenders - due to the fact that there are multiple kinds of sexual offenses - this is certainly something to be taken very seriously.
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:23 AM
 
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If it works, all 50 should demand it.

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Opponents argue that the side effects of chemical castration (e. g. , life threatening blood clots and serious allergic reactions) are reason for avoiding it.

Others have argued unsuccessfully that forced castration violates the protection against cruel and unusual punishment guaranteed by the Eighth Amendment to the U. S. Constitution.
I have always found it interesting and disturbing why people worry so about inflicting pain on someone who savagely raped or maimed another person. IMO, those who advocate for violent offenders to be treated with kid gloves are just as sick as the offenders themselves.
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Where is the proof that this procedure results in anything but a convicted sterile sex offender. IMHO the criminal is created in the brain not the gonads.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:00 AM
 
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I've never castrated a human, but have castrated hundreds of male cattle.

The demeanor and aggressiveness of an 800 lb young bull and an 800lb steer is night and day.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:38 AM
 
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Where is the proof that this procedure results in anything but a convicted sterile sex offender. IMHO the criminal is created in the brain not the gonads.
What Marmac said...

Any farmer can tell you that the difference in the behavior of a male animal without testicles is completely different than a male with testicles.


So if a HUMAN male animal - with testicles - is uncontrolled and aggressive enough to rape somebody, why not remove the testicles? It's probably not a 100% cure and answer, but it'd sure do a heckuva lot more good than what we're doing now!
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:58 AM
 
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Absolutely have to agree with Marmac. For the squeemish, there is chemical castration as well. IIRC, in Florida the guys had the option of staying in jail or chemical castration and supervision. I guess if Mr. Willy was really running their minds, they opted to stay in jail. There is a big caveat on all this though, some behavior is not sexual except as a byproduct of an underlying condition or issue, and that issue can remain after castration. Using Marmac's animal example, a male cat who is neutered too late will still spray.
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Old 06-21-2010, 10:30 AM
 
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Absolutely have to agree with Marmac. For the squeemish, there is chemical castration as well. IIRC, in Florida the guys had the option of staying in jail or chemical castration and supervision. I guess if Mr. Willy was really running their minds, they opted to stay in jail. There is a big caveat on all this though, some behavior is not sexual except as a byproduct of an underlying condition or issue, and that issue can remain after castration. Using Marmac's animal example, a male cat who is neutered too late will still spray.
I'd steer clear of the chemical castration. Just lop the darned things off.

It seems that too many people are more concerned about the criminal than the victim(s). It also seems that too many people think castration is equal to execution, and it's not.

Castration probably isn't what any man wants. But hey, if you rape somebody you've pretty much given up the right to be calling the shots.
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Old 06-21-2010, 10:30 AM
 
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This is a good thing.

Castrating sex offenders does not kill them. It simply removes one (two?) of the main driving forces behind their inappropriately aggressive sexual behavior. A guy can live without his testicles, and if he rapes somebody he not only deserves to live without them, society would be safer if he had them removed.

Though this should not be a broad-brush law, applying to all sex offenders - due to the fact that there are multiple kinds of sexual offenses - this is certainly something to be taken very seriously.

I agree. Don't forget folks some that were labeled as 'sex offender' were actually exonerated years later by DNA evidence.
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Old 06-21-2010, 10:37 AM
 
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I agree. Don't forget folks some that were labeled as 'sex offender' were actually exonerated years later by DNA evidence.
You're right. There are a lot of scenarios for which somebody should not be castrated.

I've got a distant relative who will be labeled as a Sex Offender for the next 25 years - until he is 44 years old. What did he do? Well... He was screwing around, drinking, and making out with a girl he thought was 20. She told him she was 20. They had consensual sex, her parents found out, and suddenly he's in a world of hurt.

What he did was incredibly stupid, and costly. But it's a far cry from raping a little kid. Unfortunately, both carry the same label.
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