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My experience with homosexuals is not extensive. When I was in the Air Force, a female heterosexual was raped in our day room by a group of lesbians because they said that they wanted to show her how much "fun" "it" was. Had they have been males, they would have went to the stockade and been dealt with but since they were being "sensitive" to the lesbians who were serving openly, nothing was done. They treated it like a joke. The only other experience I have is recent. My adult son with developmental disabilities was attending a day center where a staff member caught a young male staff member masturbating in front of a young man with very severe disabilities. This went on the local internet and the young man whom was homosexual was given a "counseling statement" and he continues to "work" the center or hopefully, he moved on after the investigation. My son has been pulled from the center and we are looking to relocate and that is why I was watching the situation in Manhattan, KS because if, and I doubt if you bothered, you read all the information, you would have found that the ordinance would not allow anyone to speak out against it because they would face a tribunal that could fine them a large sum. The ordinance was really stepping too far and this town was not one where discrimination was a problem in the first place. It is mostly young people at the college. This pushing of the ordinance was not brought about by the local people but by outsiders coming in hoping to make an example of a quiet town so they could make the news and continue to try to push the agenda of the LGBT community. You always want to compare people that are black with people that are homosexual so if every black person who ever felt hate committed suicide, well, really I am guessing there would be just about no black people left. People that feel suicidal need mental health services not laws changed and I am guessing again that those with God in their heart would understand this in the first place. Behavior is a choice and color of one's skin is not and you can beat your drum again and again but it won't change that. Sexual behavior, stress "behavior".
when I was a kid in NY I had a friend who was such a considerate person when it came to being there as a true friend in need.
He never let ya' down! He would come from miles away to be there when you were in a bind and would get down and dirty if you were working on your car, house, or even digging up a garden.
However; a lot of people were prejudice toward him because he had a bad habit of doing immoral things - for pay!
That is how I see the gay community.
Some of the nicest people do bad things and just because they are nice does NOT negate that which is wrong.
That IMMORAL THING my friend did ... he did contracts ... as in breaking arms and legs (especially when it was toward people who hurt children and women).
Personally - I do not care who it is - if it is a perversion it needs to be dealt with in a fast and judicial manor.
Consider how nice those school yard pedophiles are with their bags of candy for their special friends! Nice is NOT an excuse!
I am not totally sure what you mean and why are you comparing with the rights of racial minoirities.
Expand on that please, take care.
I also do not think the comparison is a straight or 100% valid one. Having said that however I can see many many parallels between them which I guess is why people so often make that parallel.
It brings to my mind the Mildred Loving case in the US. A man and a woman married despite being from different races and they were brought to court for it. The judge is quoted as saying that if the races were meant to mix "god" would not have put them on separate continents and lands.
Compare that to comments like the ones where people say gay marriage is wrong because god made Adam and Eve "not adam and steve".
Such parallels are stark and compelling... enough that even though not 100% valid I can see why people make them, and I think the level of consciousness raising that making such comparisons achieves means it is worth doing.
To me love is love, and dedicating ones one and only life to another person is a beautiful thing. That two hearts can meet and love in this world is one of the best things our species has going for us. That such love is condemned by some solely because of the color of skin, or the genitalia types, that those hearts are pumping blood into... is for me a tragedy and one of the worst in our history as a civilisation.
Let us say you are right. The point is still one of freedom to choose who you want to love and live with and your right to privacy. With that in mind even if someone chooses his/her sexual partner and not because he or she was born that way they should no problem. Sadly, others like to impose on others how to live life and find reasons to make them look evil in some way or another, take care.
The notion that the homosexual rights issue is strictly a 'love and let love' argument, is for the naive and uninformed. This conveniently excuses the political, judicial, and educational agendas still on the forefront.
In the name of safety, children are being taught far more than what an elementary student should be. Abortion Laws, Pornography Laws, and even Sex Offender Laws have been affected by proponents of homosexuality. Sadly, the 'imposition' has repeatedly been on the part of homosexuals and activists to force their lifestyle/behavior onto society.
This is not an issue of forcing heterosexuality upon gay roomees. This is a pervasive, socio-political agenda, seeking to influence every major facet of American culture.
Homosexuality is not a race. It has never even been established to be an innate sexual orientation, and therefore we somehow bypassed the need for conclusive physiological evidence, and have opted to adopt theory as fact, which has been the practice for about 70 years now.
Perhaps homosexuality is not a choice, as many believe it isn't, but neither are Pedophilia, Bestiality, Voyeurism, and Incestuous behaviors. Anyone practicing these sexual deviations never chose to become what they are, and environmental predisposition, as may be the case with homosexuality, is as acceptable a theory as any other in explaining each of them.
As a black American, I can say with confidence that being black is not a choice, and pigmentation is from birth. The same has never been concluded regarding homosexuality. "Right to privacy", "The heart wants what the heart wants", and other types of empty philosophical rhetoric supporting homosexuality, has little to do with tolerating another person who happens to have a different skin shade.
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The notion that the homosexual rights issue is strictly a 'love and let love' argument, is for the naive and uninformed. This conveniently excuses the political, judicial, and educational agendas still on the forefront.
In the name of safety, children are being taught far more than what an elementary student should be. Abortion Laws, Pornography Laws, and even Sex Offender Laws have been affected by proponents of homosexuality. Sadly, the 'imposition' has repeatedly been on the part of homosexuals and activists to force their lifestyle/behavior onto society.
This is not an issue of forcing heterosexuality upon gay roomees. This is a pervasive, socio-political agenda, seeking to influence every major facet of American culture.
Homosexuality is not a race. It has never even been established to be an innate sexual orientation, and therefore we somehow bypassed the need for conclusive physiological evidence, and have opted to adopt theory as fact, which has been the practice for about 70 years now.
Perhaps homosexuality is not a choice, as many believe it isn't, but neither are Pedophilia, Bestiality, Voyeurism, and Incestuous behaviors. Anyone practicing these sexual deviations never chose to become what they are, and environmental predisposition, as may be the case with homosexuality, is as acceptable a theory as any other in explaining each of them.
As a black American, I can say with confidence that being black is not a choice, and pigmentation is from birth. The same has never been concluded regarding homosexuality. "Right to privacy", "The heart wants what the heart wants", and other types of empty philosophical rhetoric supporting homosexuality, has little to do with tolerating another person who happens to have a different skin shade.
Excellent post!
Too many people seem to think it's all about whether or not they are "born gay," or if they are otherwise "really nice people," etc.
When that has nothing to do with it.
I'm sure many pedophiles and necrophiliacs are great neighbors too, and I'd imagine they believe they're just "following their hearts" the exact same way a gay person does.
But that doesn't excuse the fact that they all have sexual disorders. And we as a society, should be treating their sickness ... not normalize and legalize it ... like the Gay, Lesbian, Transgender, Cross dresser, Bi-Sexual society wants everyone to do.
But that doesn't excuse the fact that they all have sexual disorders. And we as a society, should be treating their sickness ... not normalize and legalize it ... like the Gay, Lesbian, Transgender, Cross dresser, Bi-Sexual society wants everyone to do.
Nonsense.
It is not a "sexual disorder" and you are not qualified to make such a judgment.
Your opinion is the opposite view of every national medical, psychiatric, sociological, anthropological and scientific organization and institution.
The ignorance of prejudiced people never ceases to amaze me.
It is not a "sexual disorder" and you are not qualified to make such a judgment.
Your opinion is the opposite view of every national medical, psychiatric, sociological, anthropological and scientific organization and institution.
The ignorance of prejudiced people never ceases to amaze me.
Sheesh.
... and you are qualified?
Quote:
Richard P. Fitzgibbons, MD, Director of Comprehensive Counseling Services at a private psychiatric practice, wrote in a Jan. 24, 1997 letter to the Washington Times:
"There is substantial evidence based on years of clinical experience that homosexuality is a developmental disorder.
AND ...
Neil E. Whitehead, PhD, scientific research consultant, wrote in his 1999 book My Genes Made Me Do It!:
"The stages of psycho-social development toward adult heterosexuality are clearly demarcated, known and understood by developmental psychologists, and are so obviously learned that heterosexuality is clearly not genetically mandated. Surveys of adult homosexuals show conspicuous deficits in several of these developmental stages - showing that homosexuality is cultural and environmental rather than genetic." (www.procon.org SOURCE)
FACT IS:
there is evidence either way -- the socially destructive way and pro co-dependent enabler way.
Im not "sensitive" to either. My sister is a lesbian, and my cousin is in an interracial relationship, and they are both happy, I wouldn't change either of them for anything in the world. In fact, my sister's girlfriend is like another sister to me. I think everyone needs to quit worrying about what others are doing and just worry bout themselves.......just a thought
when I was a kid in NY I had a friend who was such a considerate person when it came to being there as a true friend in need.
He never let ya' down! He would come from miles away to be there when you were in a bind and would get down and dirty if you were working on your car, house, or even digging up a garden.
However; a lot of people were prejudice toward him because he had a bad habit of doing immoral things - for pay!
That is how I see the gay community.
Some of the nicest people do bad things and just because they are nice does NOT negate that which is wrong.
That IMMORAL THING my friend did ... he did contracts ... as in breaking arms and legs (especially when it was toward people who hurt children and women).
Personally - I do not care who it is - if it is a perversion it needs to be dealt with in a fast and judicial manor.
Consider how nice those school yard pedifiles are with their bags of candy for their special friends! Nice is NOT an excuse!
Look, what your friend did was illegal and actually hurt a lot of people. Same with pedifiles is schoolyards. It is illegal and produces victims of abuse. I am sick of people trying to say that being gay is an equivalent. It is not, and is extremely insulting. I can say a million things are akin to this that and the other, but just because I say so does not mean it is anywhere near being similar. If you believe that being gay is akin to child molesting, having sex with sheep and the like, then you and those who think like you are very warped. There is no likeness, and you saying there is might convince people who are dumb, prejudiced, and paranoid enough to believe the same as you, but fortunately there are enough people with common sense and a shred of goodness in their hearts to realize that comparison is just as similar as milk and vodka. You can disgree with the gay lifestyle all you want, and that is perfectly fine, but do not try to turn it into something that it is not.
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... and you are qualified? 
