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There's lots of stories out there, but at what point is it ok to defend your store or business? People will hear of the one beer...but how many times has this gone on? At what point does an owner take a more active defense against a problem, or a chronic problem?
People will say that your property isn't worth the criminal's life but I disagree. The criminal decided to commit the crime and placed themselves in the situation in which their life could be terminated.
People die every day. Good people, innocent people, those children in Parkland, Florida, etc. Homeless veterans, mentally ill grandparents, etc.
Why waste your time and energy on the scum of society who, if you allow them to get away, will only continue to commit such crimes, but can easily escalate their criminality to the next level and begin killing witnesses?
I'm fine with all of these examples. Police are grossly ineffective in most situations like this. It takes so long for police to respond to a phone call reporting a robbery, if that were the only deterrent robbers would be free to walk in, steal whatever they want and walk out with impunity. Store owners must be allowed to protect themselves and their property.
These robbers were armed and threatening the lives of the store clerks as well. There is no question the clerks should be allowed to defend themselves.
These robbers were armed and threatening the lives of the store clerks as well. There is no question the clerks should be allowed to defend themselves.
Agree.. Where it gets out of hand is some store owner who sees someone stealing a bag of chips and pulls a gun and shoots them. Which has happened in the past, no doubt will happen again. I believe in those instances, the store owners/shooter was prosecuted. Rightfully so.
Someone points a gun at you, you're pretty much justified in shooting them before they can shoot you.
I believe there's even been a few cases where police have been shot executing 'no-knock' warrants and the subject of the warrant (or whoever happened to be there at the time and shot the police) was acquitted.. I actually agree with that as well.. Someone busts down your door.. You've got the right to shoot them. Once they announce they are the police.. Rules change.
There are those in our society that steal and hurt others. Most of them have a choice to steal or not and to use a weapon to intimidate or not. The victims often have no chance but to accept the crime and hope for mercy from the criminal.
If the robber burst in, grabbed some items or money from the register and ran that is one thing and the victims are left to pick up the pieces. If that same robber starts waving a gun around threatening people then that is another.
Why should any of us accept being victims at the hands of scum?
I can't help but think about the gun control debate where they say they only want to ban assault weapons while others are calling for bans on gas operated guns which is every semi automatic and others would ban all guns from civilians.
The problem is, Laws are made for the people that follow them. How many laws did the armed robber in that video the OP posted break in trying to steal?
Whatever the Law allows!
In Montana, the unwanted invasion of an occupied building can, by law, be a death sentence, if one of the occupants so desires and has the capability (a quite likely scenario).
We don't see very many such invasions...
There are those in our society that steal and hurt others. Most of them have a choice to steal or not and to use a weapon to intimidate or not. The victims often have no chance but to accept the crime and hope for mercy from the criminal.
If the robber burst in, grabbed some items or money from the register and ran that is one thing and the victims are left to pick up the pieces. If that same robber starts waving a gun around threatening people then that is another.
Why should any of us accept being victims at the hands of scum?
I can't help but think about the gun control debate where they say they only want to ban assault weapons while others are calling for bans on gas operated guns which is every semi automatic and others would ban all guns from civilians.
The problem is, Laws are made for the people that follow them. How many laws did the armed robber in that video the OP posted break in trying to steal?
That's simplistic - the illegality of certain things makes it harder for those who want to use them to still get their hands on them. Do you know how hard it is to buy hand grenades? Yes you can get your hands on them but you can bet your a$$ if they were legal on sale in Walmart there would be a whole lot more of them on the streets. Banning AR-15s and their class would lead to .... less AR-15s. Thats not actually debatable - apart from in the alternative specious logic world. There would be no question whether any AR-15 found, sold, moved anyway was legal or illegal. It would simply be illegal and easier to police, detect, remove.
Agree.. Where it gets out of hand is some store owner who sees someone stealing a bag of chips and pulls a gun and shoots them. Which has happened in the past, no doubt will happen again. I believe in those instances, the store owners/shooter was prosecuted. Rightfully so.
Someone points a gun at you, you're pretty much justified in shooting them before they can shoot you.
I believe there's even been a few cases where police have been shot executing 'no-knock' warrants and the subject of the warrant (or whoever happened to be there at the time and shot the police) was acquitted.. I actually agree with that as well.. Someone busts down your door.. You've got the right to shoot them. Once they announce they are the police.. Rules change.
If someone comes in waving a gun and you reasonably believe them a threat that should be enough. By the time the gun is actually pointed at you - then it may be too late for you. If some open-carry freak wants to come in my store carrying it in his hands - well that's a chance he's gonna have to take.
The lack of gun common sense in this country is the worst, not helped by the 2nd amendment's complete failure of omission regarding even the most basic training.
Whatever the Law allows!
In Montana, the unwanted invasion of an occupied building can, by law, be a death sentence, if one of the occupants so desires and has the capability (a quite likely scenario).
We don't see very many such invasions...
Well, how many people live in Montana?
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