Shoot up at LAX has totally negated the Gun Lobby's argument (Pelosi, weapon)

[cindersslipper]

Amazingly Joe Blow in the USA truly seems to believe that More Guns are the answer to Everything.

Shootings in schools? Arm the teachers.

Shootings in cinemas? Relax the personal carry rules so some Rambo can come to the rescue of the cowering unarmed.

LAX proves once and for all that "more guns" makes no sense at all, and it is wildly ineffective as a tactic to lower the violence in a society generally, or specifically.

Mind you I said that about Fort Hood too.

LAX is arguably one of the "safest", most terrorist conscious airports in the world. Airports anywhere are now pockets of extreme policing, armed security personnel and equipment everywhere, their own governmental staff, customs, sniffer dogs, etc. They even have their own police force.

One maggot with a semi-automatic not only breached all of the security at LAX, he also managed to shoot a trained, armed guard who's means of making a living included being alert and ready to shoot at a moments notice.

Gun Lobby Fail. Even the prepared can be caught by surprise or outgunned. What do you want, AK47s on everyone?

You can't outlaw the crazies. America doesn't even have a public mental health system so it doesn't actually try anyway.

You can make it so the crazies cant buy an AK47 at Walmart or on the street corner.

Using an airport analogy, allowing free and open access to firearms is like firing all of the air traffic controllers.

Just give folks a plane and let them fly wherever. So what if they collide in the sky killing innocent people? We have given up trying to "control" them - it's a breach of an individual's rights!!!!!!

Gun control, like air traffic control, has zero to do with "freedom" and everything to do with common sense and protecting the innocent.

These incidents are going to keep happening unless you do something about the gun laws. Gun Control has never meant You Cant Have A Gun - you can, if you're properly licensed and assessed. Honest people will not be affected by gun control.

Common sense has totally deserted Americans on this subject. You guys are so smart at almost everything else.

There are many societies that no one owns a gun, and those societies do not see massacres and attempted massacres like this one. It's not a coincidence!

All of this is going to keep escalating until someone stands up and calls a halt to the internal Arms Race, before every man woman and child is directly affected by gun violence.

Obama, I'm looking at you! It is way past time America stepped up in line with International Law regarding the Death Penalty, and also stepped up the personal responsibility that comes hand in hand with "freedom" in a civilised society.

I suggest that until these two blatant breaches of human rights are addressed, America will become more and more violent.

[cindersslipper]

Wow. Not one single opinion.

[43north87west]

Originally Posted by cindersslipper

Wow. Not one single opinion.

Maybe because you're ranting (in the middle of peoples' commute time on a Friday afternoon, no less). Ranting is for Politics & Other Controversies, not Great Debates.

Edit: or maybe because someone else already has a thread rolling in P&OC.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-down-lax.html

[slingshot]

Seems to me that the state with the strictest gun laws in the country should arm their citizens. One person with a concealed weapon could have stopped him dead. The guns laws there didn't stop him.

[eevee]

This. just. happened.

It's only been about 6 hours, not enough time to know the whole story, never mind start a "great debate" about it.

ETA: I don't know the whole story, but just going off of your OP, it's likely that the gunman didn't breach any security. There is nothing stopping anyone from walking into an airport with a gun, no dogs sniffing them out or metal detectors.

[Rubi3]

Why would anyone waste time commenting to a wild-eyed rant saying nothing but one-liner yells about nothing of consequence, just mindless ranting. Calm down and write something sensible.

[Caleb Longstreet]

Originally Posted by cindersslipper

Amazingly Joe Blow in the USA truly seems to believe that More Guns are the answer to Everything.

Shootings in schools? Arm the teachers.

Shootings in cinemas? Relax the personal carry rules so some Rambo can come to the rescue of the cowering unarmed.

LAX proves once and for all that "more guns" makes no sense at all, and it is wildly ineffective as a tactic to lower the violence in a society generally, or specifically.

Mind you I said that about Fort Hood too.

LAX is arguably one of the "safest", most terrorist conscious airports in the world. Airports anywhere are now pockets of extreme policing, armed security personnel and equipment everywhere, their own governmental staff, customs, sniffer dogs, etc. They even have their own police force.

One maggot with a semi-automatic not only breached all of the security at LAX, he also managed to shoot a trained, armed guard who's means of making a living included being alert and ready to shoot at a moments notice.

Gun Lobby Fail. Even the prepared can be caught by surprise or outgunned. What do you want, AK47s on everyone?

You can't outlaw the crazies. America doesn't even have a public mental health system so it doesn't actually try anyway.

You can make it so the crazies cant buy an AK47 at Walmart or on the street corner.

Using an airport analogy, allowing free and open access to firearms is like firing all of the air traffic controllers.

Just give folks a plane and let them fly wherever. So what if they collide in the sky killing innocent people? We have given up trying to "control" them - it's a breach of an individual's rights!!!!!!

Gun control, like air traffic control, has zero to do with "freedom" and everything to do with common sense and protecting the innocent.

These incidents are going to keep happening unless you do something about the gun laws. Gun Control has never meant You Cant Have A Gun - you can, if you're properly licensed and assessed. Honest people will not be affected by gun control.

Common sense has totally deserted Americans on this subject. You guys are so smart at almost everything else.

There are many societies that no one owns a gun, and those societies do not see massacres and attempted massacres like this one. It's not a coincidence!

All of this is going to keep escalating until someone stands up and calls a halt to the internal Arms Race, before every man woman and child is directly affected by gun violence.

Obama, I'm looking at you! It is way past time America stepped up in line with International Law regarding the Death Penalty, and also stepped up the personal responsibility that comes hand in hand with "freedom" in a civilised society.

I suggest that until these two blatant breaches of human rights are addressed, America will become more and more violent.

Hey anti-gun guy, we won. Get used to it. You and Pelosi.

[arleigh]

More people with guns means less people willing to do stupid things with them.
Kind of like the end of the movie " Did you hear about the Morgans?"

[Themanwithnoname]

Gee... I wonder why ALL of these "mass shootings" happen in "gun free zones"

...tough one!

[clb10]

I'd love to see a call for prayers for the victims before the political rants start when one of these tragedies occur.