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Old 10-14-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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Don't know how to describe it, but it seems like ebola is turning into the 1980s HIV scare. Granted, I wasn't born yet... so I only know what I've read about it. Seems like in both cases, we don't really know how to stop its transmission (well, we do but because of modern technology/airplanes it isn't really feasible). And there's not a real cure for it yet nor is it a "western" disease. Sure we have other things like malaria that kills more people than ebola but because ebola is "new" to the western world, people are panicking?

And it almost sounds like people want to segregate people from "africa" like they did gay men in the 80s because they don't want to "catch" it.

This isn't like the H1N1 scare to me because people generally felt "distant" from it or know there was a shot they could get for a vaccine...

With the ebola having flu-like symptoms and flu season starting to kick in... well... it'll get a bit interesting in the healthcare field?
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Old 10-14-2014, 11:52 AM
 
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HIV wasn't a scare...It was and is real, just as this Ebola is....Thing is if a HIV virus meet an Ebola virus it would Moderator cut: language it's pants,turn and run away.....far far away. No one want's to die like a stuck pig being bled out,not even a HIV virus.
Buy bleach....

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Old 10-14-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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There was little fear of contacting AIDs in the 1980s unless you took part in disgusting sex practices or were a drug addict using an infected needle. There was a time when blood donations did infect some innocent people but testing quickly ended that danger.

So most normal people went on their own way without fear of contacting HIV.
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Old 10-14-2014, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
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Exactly...HIV was totally avoidable. Ebola is NOT...and it appears our leaders WANT to "level the playing field" by allowing this virus to spread to our country. If that isn't the case, why are they still allowing flights from infected areas?
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:10 PM
 
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There was little fear of contacting AIDs in the 1980s unless you took part in disgusting sex practices or were a drug addict using an infected needle. There was a time when blood donations did infect some innocent people but testing quickly ended that danger.

So most normal people went on their own way without fear of contacting HIV.
Around 1987, that's true. And pre-1982 that's true.

From 1982 until 1987.. No.. That's totally incorrect.

Prior to 1982 (ish).. "Gay Cancer" was an oddity that was restricted to the gay community. Around about 1982, people who were not gay started turning up with it.. And a brown pants storm of epic proportions took over the country. There was no certainty over the transmission method.. We knew that it was transmitted through blood.. But there was thought that it could be transmitted through casual contact.. Using the same bathroom as someone who was infected.. Kissing. It was in the blood supply, and all kinds of people were coming down with it, from Isaac Asimov to someone's grandma who had heart surgery.

Post-1987.. That's where the corner got turned. It wasn't roses after that, but you started to see improvement in how people with HIV were treated. Arthur Ashe, Liberace, Rock Hudson, Ryan White, Magic Johnson.. Those are the people who helped put a face to it and turn the opinion around and start education on it. This is one area that Reagan totally dropped the ball. I don't think he knew how to handle it, and completely screwed it up. And I generally like Reagan's presidency.

Remember the Ray brothers? 3 hemophiliac brothers that contracted AIDS.. Their house was burned down to get them out of the neighborhood. I can see that happening, sort of, with Ebola.. but Ebola has a much shorter incubation period and kills much quicker. In the 80's with HIV.. It was roughly an 18 month lifespan from time of diagnosis to death and mortality was almost 100%. Ebola is more like 2 weeks and.. So far in the US, less than a 25% mortality rate (Figures range overall from 50 to 70 percent, but that's in Africa)

There are strong similarities here.. In the 80's, HIV was a death sentence, plain and simple, and was often a horrible death. So, I vehemently disagree that HIV was a 'scare'.. But there are lots and lots of differences as well.
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:23 PM
 
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It would be nice if he Ebola was as hard to catch a HIV. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case. People in full hazmat suits seem to be catching it anyway.
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:28 PM
 
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HIV by the time it got to this country was known as sexual transmitted disease. It did not require a nurse to have a hazmat uniform. Even then people do not trust CDC on their knowledge since that nurse got it.
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:48 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I don't think the comparison is valid at all. HIV is an STD while Ebola is a bit easier to contract. Also, Ebola kills you very quickly.
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Old 10-15-2014, 06:28 AM
 
Location: DC
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It's a reality not a scare if you live in Dallas. Those guys have less medical skill than Liberia.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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what else do you call it then? people are scared of it, scared about it, and scared of getting it...
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