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The attitudes of the courts are generally along the lines of the mother's wishes and the father's wishes are irrelevant. There is a child and the child must be supported. How the child got here is irrelevant.
Here's your situation hypothetically restated.
If a man marries a woman and she says she'll love him forever and he has children with her, and then she decides she no longer loves him and gets a divorce, should he still owe child support even though she lied?
Yes, because child support is not about the parents but rather about the child. The two of them made a child and they both have to support it.
The same is true if the male and female roles are reversed.
The attitudes of the courts are generally along the lines of the mother's wishes and the father's wishes are irrelevant. There is a child and the child must be supported. How the child got here is irrelevant.
A similar rationale has likewise been used to force male rape victims to pay child support. Are you in favor of that as well?
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Here's your situation hypothetically restated.
If a man marries a woman and she says she'll love him forever and he has children with her, and then she decides she no longer loves him and gets a divorce, should he still owe child support even though she lied?
Yes, because in this case he knew that she would give birth in the event of a pregnancy. However, this isn't equivalent to my scenario above.
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Yes, because child support is not about the parents but rather about the child. The two of them made a child and they both have to support it.
The same is true if the male and female roles are reversed.
Do you believe that a child is created at the point of conception/fertilization or implantation? If not, then No, a man did not make a child.
How many times have we hears stories about the man who promised to marry his girlfriend if she got pregnant? How many of these couple decided to follow through? Should a man be held to his promise of marriage? What about the man who promised to wear a condom and changed his mind later?
I honestly can't tell if you are being serious or joking here.
50-50. There should be a firm commitment and agreement from a man to "accept" concequences, be it a form of marriage, or a legal contract, (it could be verbal, but it's much harder to prove a verbal promise took place...)
50-50. There should be a firm commitment and agreement from a man to "accept" concequences, be it a form of marriage, or a legal contract, (it could be verbal, but it's much harder to prove a verbal promise took place...)
Sorry, but that's dumb. Literally takes away any responsibility a man would have when having sex. "Hey, I don't want a kid, but since I'm not married, who cares! I can run off and not pay a dime!"
My own question here is this: Would you support giving a child support opt-out to men if the women that they had sex with promised (as in, this promise can be proven) to get an abortion in the event of an unplanned pregnancy and lied or changed their minds in regards to this later on?
Absolutely not. It's "pay to play" as far as I'm concerned. If the guy didn't wear a condom (or if it broke), and he nevertheless enjoyed an orgasm (which is just filled with those pesky little sperm-critters) which resulted in a pregnancy, he gets to support the offspring for the next 18 years.
And don't come to me to rip the tax dollars out of my hands to support your kid. If you had the need to do the deed, then you pay, not me.
Sorry, but that's dumb. Literally takes away any responsibility a man would have when having sex. "Hey, I don't want a kid, but since I'm not married, who cares! I can run off and not pay a dime!"
Well, if it's clearly conveyed that he wouldn't pay for child support, the number of unwanted pregnancies would go down. A woman always have a choice, and a guy doesn't have any say in it, other than pay the money, even for one night stand.
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