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The only result of such a fantasy would be to replace "greed" (better described as ambition) for money with "greed" (better described as lust) for raw power; and the latter has a far bloodier record in the darker chapters of History.
Be careful what you wish for, someone else might suffer if you get it.
Ahhh but both of those greed/power/narcissism are the motivations for the leaders of the U.S. now, and has been for decades!
As with your statement above, I cannot see politically why more socialists aren't die hard Christians? Christianity is all about helping the poor, the sick, the feeble, and this would seem to be right up there alley. Sadly, most of the folks I know on the left consider themselves Pagans, or Agnostics, or Scientologists.
Accepting Christianity is more than just believing in helping people. It also requires a whole host of additional beliefs about the world, namely that a personal god exists and his son came to earth and did all sorts of entirely unbelievable things. The idea that Christianity is a natural fit for anyone who like helping people glosses over the central tenets of Christianity, many of which are incredibly far-fetched and unlikely.
Liberalism is positively correlated with intelligence and so is atheism. Those two are a natural fit.
Those are still goals, and to the extent they are 'principles' they are held by nearly everyone. There is nothing specifically "Progressive" about them. You'll have to do better than that.
Knock it off. Your blind partisanship has made you come off looking like a troll. Your posts don't make sense and you won't even try to have a reasoned discussion.
It would be revolutionary if we had near 100% voter participation.
It would be revolutionary if wealthy interests could not so easily purchase candidates, elections, and legislation.
It would be revolutionary if Americans had convenient access to unbiased news reporting and information.
It would be revolutionary if we disbanded the 2 party system, ended gerrymandering and reformed our methods to elect our primary candidates.
When you boil down his message and get past all the "free" stuff, this is what I've boiled his message down to. When he says "millions of people coming together" it's not really about "free" stuff, it's about utilizing the democratic process, something we do not do.
Accepting Christianity is more than just believing in helping people. It also requires a whole host of additional beliefs about the world, namely that a personal god exists and his son came to earth and did all sorts of entirely unbelievable things. The idea that Christianity is a natural fit for anyone who like helping people glosses over the central tenets of Christianity, many of which are incredibly far-fetched and unlikely.
Liberalism is positively correlated with intelligence and so is atheism. Those two are a natural fit.
... I think it is a tremendous leap to assume that our children will invent some technology that could easily solve mountainous debt ...
Not "some technology" but a large number of new technologies. As technology advances, the speed at which it can advance increases, because the process of advancing it uses it. A more advanced microscope, for example, can be used to invent smaller electronic circuits, to fit more AI into smaller devices. As just one of a huge number of examples of how advances in technology can make further advances easier. And technology improves the economy by making more and better products available at lower cost. Cell phones are just one of many examples of modern products we used to do without. Now whole industries are centered around cell phones, their apps, etc. Even being able to deposit your checks from your cell phone improves the economy, by saving you time and giving you more time to do other things that add to the economy.
And even if there were no advances in technology, how would a mountain of debt hurt future generations? Who is going to force them to pay it? Courts? Who is going to preside over those courts? The same future generations? It will be their choice to pay our debts. If they decide we gave them those debts improperly, and it's not fair that they should pay them, there is nothing to stop them from simply not paying them.
"But this vision of homogenous, altruistic Nordic lands is mostly a fantasy. The choices Nordic countries have made have little to do with altruism or kinship. Rather, Nordic people have made their decisions out of self-interest. Nordic nations offer their citizens—all of their citizens, but especially the middle class—high-quality services that save people a lot of money, time, and trouble. This is what Americans fail to understand: My taxes in Finland were used to pay for top-notch services for me.
The reason Nordics stick with the system is because they can see that on the whole, they come out ahead—not just as a group, but as individuals.
Nordic economies go through cycles like all countries, and they make mistakes like everyone else—Finland is in the midst of a recession right now, whereas the Swedish economy is doing phenomenally well. As in any region, some Nordic companies eventually crash and burn, and others never get off the ground. Some continue to dominate their market for decades. This is all as it should be in free-market, capitalist economies—which is what Nordic countries are. In fact, as capitalist economies the Nordic countries have proven that capitalism works better when it’s accompanied by smart, universal social policies that are in everyone’s self-interest.
Americans are not wrong to abhor the specters of socialism and big government. In fact, as a proud Finn, I often like to remind my American friends that my countrymen in Finland fought two brutal wars against the Soviet Union to preserve Finland’s freedom and independence against socialism. No one wants to live in a society that doesn’t support individual liberty, entrepreneurship, and open markets. But the truth is that free-market capitalism and universal social policies go well together—this isn’t about big government, it’s about smart government."
Accepting Christianity is more than just believing in helping people. It also requires a whole host of additional beliefs about the world, namely that a personal god exists and his son came to earth and did all sorts of entirely unbelievable things. The idea that Christianity is a natural fit for anyone who like helping people glosses over the central tenets of Christianity, many of which are incredibly far-fetched and unlikely.
Liberalism is positively correlated with intelligence and so is atheism. Those two are a natural fit.
To me, it's a sure sign you've lost the argument when you decide you are right simply because you are smarter than the other fella.
And as my mother used to say, whoever starts the fist fight lost the argument.
As with your statement above, I cannot see politically why more socialists aren't die hard Christians? Christianity is all about helping the poor, the sick, the feeble, and this would seem to be right up there alley. Sadly, most of the folks I know on the left consider themselves Pagans, or Agnostics, or Scientologists.
The question you should be asking is why aren't more Christians left wing? If they really were all about helping the poor, the sick, the feeble, they would be voting for governments and policies that aim to do that.
The question you should be asking is why aren't more Christians left wing? If they really were all about helping the poor, the sick, the feeble, they would be voting for governments and policies that aim to do that.
convenience.
it's convenient to be pro-abortion because it's what the bible says
it's convenient to forget about helping the poor because it might raise taxes and affect their wallets
It's a bit ironic to be anti-abortion and also pro-death penalty. isn't it almost the same thing?
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