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Old 06-09-2020, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Heidelberg, Germany
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I found this interesting statistic:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ers_by_country


It's interesting to see which countries have more deaths by law enforcement per capita than the US and how that number compares to other western nations including Canada and European countries.


Food for thought?

What may be the reasons for these numbers?

Training of law enforcement officers? Racism? Gun laws? Other reasons? Inequality? A bit of everything?

Should we be concerned? What are possible solutions?

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Old 06-09-2020, 07:43 PM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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This list will really disappoint Trump. While we are leading Mexico, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq; Brazil is smoking us and I’m sure Putin is telling him that if Russia reported their numbers they would be much higher than us as well.
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Old 06-10-2020, 04:09 AM
 
Location: A blue island in the Piedmont
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWhe_ikz5DI
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Old 06-10-2020, 06:26 AM
 
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Another stat that I'm sure will make Joe dirty his diapers is:

In 2019 TEN (10) unarmed blacks were killed by the police over 7000 were killed by other than police.
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Old 06-10-2020, 07:32 AM
 
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Another stat that I'm sure will make Joe dirty his diapers is:

In 2019 TEN (10) unarmed blacks were killed by the police over 7000 were killed by other than police.
Only 10 unarmed people. This is good?

Germany had 11 total people killed by security forces.
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Old 06-10-2020, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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All of America is the Wild West compared to Germany. Most criminals - even the hardened ones - don't carry in Germany, so that changes the approach from police significantly. Also, the bad areas in Germany are nowhere near as bad as the ones over here.
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Old 06-10-2020, 09:55 AM
 
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All of America is the Wild West compared to Germany. Most criminals - even the hardened ones - don't carry in Germany, so that changes the approach from police significantly. Also, the bad areas in Germany are nowhere near as bad as the ones over here.
France had 26 total.
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Old 06-10-2020, 12:40 PM
 
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All of America is the Wild West compared to Germany. Most criminals - even the hardened ones - don't carry in Germany, so that changes the approach from police significantly. Also, the bad areas in Germany are nowhere near as bad as the ones over here.
Beat me to it.

The US has as many guns as we have people, which is why the cops assume every person they encounter could have a gun, which leads to many more people getting killed pulling out their cell phones. I think in general the police are WAY TOO quick to pull the trigger as a result of ingrained combat style mentality (see motel shooting of guy pulling up his pants a few years back), but we are never going to be in the situation of most European countries where the country isn't flooded with handguns.
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:22 PM
 
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Only 10 unarmed people. This is good?

Germany had 11 total people killed by security forces.
When 5 of those were threat without gun, it is quite good number.
Especially as it is lower than majority skin color number, hard to complain about racism.

If you like to see bad numbers, check Chicago. But that goes to below category, so nobody cares:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2amS4-1dS0c
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Old 06-10-2020, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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It is interesting to note, that places with more restrictive gun laws (re: private ownership) seem to tend to have higher rates of police killings. Switzerland, which mandates weapon ownership by citizens, is at the bottom of the list.

This same tendency is apparent in the US as well- in areas where gun laws are less restrictive and police can expect more citizens to be armed there are fewer incidents of 'police brutality' and death at the hands of LE personnel, while areas where gun laws are more restrictive experience a higher rate of 'brutality' and death.

This is one of the primary reasons for the existence of the 2nd Amendment.
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