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"Schene was investigated previously for shooting two people — killing one — in the line of duty in 2002 and 2006. Both times his actions were found to be justified, said Ian Goodhew, prosecutor's deputy chief of staff"
Too bad they didn't get those shootings on tape. Makes me wonder.
"Schene was investigated previously for shooting two people — killing one — in the line of duty in 2002 and 2006. Both times his actions were found to be justified, said Ian Goodhew, prosecutor's deputy chief of staff"
Too bad they didn't get those shootings on tape. Makes me wonder.
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Cops are people and as I said before, there are good cops and there are bad cops. We can keep comparing d**ks. but it will go nowhere......
Yah but you have to see that there is an extremely high% of bad cops, partly because its so damn hard to get rid of the bad ones. The bad ones are protected and cuddled as much as the good ones, THAT is the problem.
well like always you hate it when you get caught crap. SO WHAT if he was helping an old lady across the street??? He ALMOST GOT HER KILLED JAYWALKING!!!!!!
I know who has a stick up his donkey and it ain't the cop.......
Mom and I always jaywalk because it takes her about two lights to cross the street.
Mom and I always jaywalk because it takes her about two lights to cross the street.
LOL! But then this is the kind of thing that leads to what is known as "the officer's discretion" in dealing with actions that are technically violations.
Unfortunately, I'm noticing that there was some real discussion of the original question in the early pages of this thread, but now it seems to have degenerated into mostly cop-bashing. Except for NoLove and maybe one or two others, since we got back on topic after wandering off for a while there, most of the posts have been stories, videos, etc., about bad, or in some cases borderline or questionable, situations involving the conduct of various cops.
It's a bit awkward to bring up this next part, because I don't want to sound full of myself, but I do find it interesting that it has now been a week since I posted with a few thoughts on my experiences working in the law enforcement field, and NoLove's compliment about that post has been the only reference to it. I have gotten a couple of reps about that post, but, other than these compliments, no one has responded to a former cop's post about actual experiences on the job. I wonder whether this might be another indicator that at this point too many people on here are more interested in bashing cops than in having a serious discussion. One exception along with NoLove: Fungame's post about the difficulty in weeding out the bad apples. I'll agree that this is a problem. I'll also tell you that the experience of dealing with a bad attitude from the public can wear on a person, and over time can change even very good cops.
If there is anyone here who is interested in some good reads that give an unvarnished, balanced inside view of police work, I would recommend three of Joseph Wambaugh's early novels: The New Centurions, The Blue Knight, and The Choirboys. From my perspective in my current occupation--aspiring writer, and older college student majoring in English--I see a flaw in The Choirboys as a piece of writing, because an important turn in the plot hinges on a coincidence. There is a little bit of coincidence at one point in The Blue Knight as well, though it's easier to overlook because it does not lead to a major shift in the plot. Still, all three novels provide an excellent realistic look at cops and law enforcement. I would also highly recommend a non-fiction book with the title Blue Truth, written by Cherokee Paul McDonald. All of these books provide an honest look at cops--some good, some bad, a lot in between, but all viewed from the inside perspective of how a human being reacts to the experience of working in law enforcement. Any or all would be really good reads for those seriously interested in gaining an understanding of what makes cops tick.
I've read Wambaugh. I was raised to respect the law. Just a moment ago I fully intended to pontificate mightily and at length about the police in my jurisdiction whom I've had the displeasure of meeting. There's not enough wind in my sails at the moment to complete the task. Suffice it to say that I have little respect for them.
All cops are pigs. They are not to be trusted. They are not trying to help you when they "just want to ask a few questions".
Never talk to them. Never agree to answer a few questions. Never agree to help them "clear a few things up".
As for the pigs that kick in the wrong doors, or attack people for no reason... well; these porkers are acting like mad dogs and need to be put down as such.
End of story.
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Re Wambaugh, I would especially recommend his early novels that I referred to earlier. His novels changed, starting around the early '80's. Not as good, in my opinion, either as pieces of writing or as candid, detailed views of cops and the work they do. Some of Wambaugh's non-fiction books continued to be good. I couldn't tell you about anything he's done in, say, the past ten years. I haven't read, or even looked at, any of those. I lost interest after fifteen years of Wambaugh novels that consistently failed to grab me.
Re Binky's post, well, now, this is the Great Debates forum, which is supposed to be an arena for the serious discussion of ideas, rather than bashing, or unsubstantiated ranting. It's refreshing to see such a thoughtful, well-reasoned post raise the already-high standards of this forum to a whole new level.
Re Binky's post, well, now, this is the Great Debates forum, which is supposed to be an arena for the serious discussion of ideas, rather than bashing, or unsubstantiated ranting. It's refreshing to see such a thoughtful, well-reasoned post raise the already-high standards of this forum to a whole new level.
yeah, nothing like adding that useless blather to the mix......
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