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Old 02-19-2012, 10:02 PM
 
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So in your mind any chemical compound that can be mixed with any other chemical compound to create something deadly is wrong and should be banned, right?

You sound like a broken record, "cannot handle THE TRUTH"

Maybe you should apply that saying to yourself...

2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic acid (2,4-D) is a common systemic pesticide/herbicide used in the control of broadleaf weeds. It is the most widely used herbicide in the world, and the third most commonly used in North America.[1] 2,4-D is a synthetic auxin (plant hormone), and as such it is often used in laboratories for plant research and as a supplement in plant cell culture media such as MS medium.

2,4-D was developed during World War II by a British team at Rothamsted Experimental Station, under the leadership of Judah Hirsch Quastel, aiming to increase crop yields for a nation at war.[2] When it was commercially released in 1946, it became the first successful selective herbicide and allowed for greatly enhanced weed control in wheat, maize (corn), rice, and similar cereal grass crops, because it only kills dicots (broadleaf plants), leaving behind monocots (grasses).

2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So when are you going to admit the OP is wrong? That 2,4-D is not Agent Orange?

Can't handle THE TRUTH?
facts! we don't need no stinkin' facts when we have nonsensical blogs to terrify ourselves with.

i showed him all of this already. trying to get him to look at data is like stacking BBs.

 
Old 02-20-2012, 02:40 AM
 
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i had written a rather lengthy response and accidentally closed the window

which currently available GM crops yield sterile seeds?
You seem to think that if it isn't out there commercially it isn't an issue. I cannot agree w/ this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneti...ion_technology
 
Old 02-20-2012, 07:12 AM
 
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You seem to think that if it isn't out there commercially it isn't an issue. I cannot agree w/ this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneti...ion_technology
Why can't you agree?
 
Old 02-22-2012, 01:36 PM
 
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Ugga,

Just briefly, because I don't want to sidetrack too much, but certainly if it were on market would be much worse, but the plan was to have it go there, so this could happen at any time w/ nasty consequences. These companies get away w/ little accountability for the harm they do.

The other issue is what they don't get caught doing, which can vary, but many times these experiments end up escaping or just where they shouldn't be. The consequences are uncertain.

Other issues w/ super weeds and crop yields are tied in w/ the use of these crops, as well.

More info. Looks like some contaminated homes are being bought. hmmm.

Millions of Pounds of Toxic Dioxin to Flood US Farmland | Natural Society
 
Old 02-22-2012, 03:57 PM
 
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Thanks for posting the link, it's hilarious, the author of the article Cassandra Anderson is truly phobic....

 
Old 02-23-2012, 03:30 AM
 
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So consumers can make an informed decision---


The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) iscurrently (http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/2012/02/21/usda-to-decide-imminently-on-novel-agent-orange-corn/ - broken link)decidingwhether or not to approve an application by Dow Chemical for its controversial genetically engineered (GE) corn variety that is resistant to the highly toxic herbicide 2,4-D, one of the main ingredients in Agent Orange.

"Agent Orange" Corn
 
Old 02-23-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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so consumers can make an informed decision---


the u.s. Department of agriculture (usda) iscurrently (http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/2012/02/21/usda-to-decide-imminently-on-novel-agent-orange-corn/ - broken link)decidingwhether or not to approve an application by dow chemical for its controversial genetically engineered (ge) corn variety that is resistant to the highly toxic herbicide 2,4-d, one of the main ingredients in agent orange.

"agent orange" corn
~yawn~

An informed decision requires unbiased facts, unfortunately what you provide is anything but unbiased...
 
Old 02-23-2012, 06:11 PM
 
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Thanks for posting the link, it's hilarious, the author of the article Cassandra Anderson is truly phobic....
Yes, I can see where dioxin contamination is humorous.
 
Old 02-23-2012, 06:12 PM
 
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~yawn~

An informed decision requires unbiased facts, unfortunately what you provide is anything but unbiased...
No such thing as unbiased facts.
 
Old 02-24-2012, 12:33 AM
 
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No such thing as unbiased facts.
Agree, by reading all the anti-GM posts and their links posted here and searching on the web all I found were hysterical phobics...

Such accredited web sites like:

gizadeathstar.com, Heritage and Heirloom Seed Catalog for Organic Gardeners, my.firedoglake.com, www.city-data.com/forum/, V7N - The Ultimate Internet Marketing Resource, njuice.com, Lee Kemp America's First Three-Time World Champion, Welcome to The Doctor Within, Miracle Mineral Supplement |MMS | Miracle Mineral Solution, Inicio, www.occupymonsanto360.org and on and on....

Seems they all take the same basic article and then put their hysterical spin on it.
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