How Do We Protect The Environment With A Republican Clean Sweep? (Washington, house)
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Something like 4 States remain with all 3 branches in Democratic hands plus New Hampshire which is with the tie breaker vote.
How did it come to this is the real question?
I take a simplistic view as nothing more than the pendulum swinging back...
I agree, but with the people picked I can't help but wonder if nationally it can easily swing back in four years if not two. I don't think in states, we'll see this BUT state elections are typically their own animals...
Let's clear up something. Democrats are a far reaching concept. There are many who claim that center-right Republicans became Democrats (they are called "blue-dogs"), there's also center-left, traditional liberals and far left, even socialists (whether democratic or not.) Not all are pro-environment at all. Yes the EPA is a cause taken on by Democrats, but most don't walk the walk. Only a few do and they are typically far-left, even Green Party leaning Democrats. Most Democrats are more center-right to center-left, it's just that compared to highly conservative or even libertarian leaning Republicans, they seem left. Look at Obama, he's mostly center-left and the Clintons are more center-right than anything...
Until this election most US Presidents have been centrist IMHO. I have no idea what the President Elect is though.
I am disgusted by all of the self identifying with the parties. I am not saying one party is better or worst than the other but they should work for us, not us work for them and demean people who think differently than what we believe "our party" believes.
I am conservative I am not against the EPA at all. I like the environment and things like the BP Oil spill and Exxon Valdiz(sp?) make me sick.
Threads like this do more to hurt the green cause than it does to help it. It is unnecessarily decisive and polarizes many people. Having your children grow up with clean air and water is a concern of all or almost all people.
I agree, but with the people picked I can't help but wonder if nationally it can easily swing back in four years if not two. I don't think in states, we'll see this BUT state elections are typically their own animals...
It can easily swing back in 4 years but IMHO it took a lot of dissatisfaction to get people to vote for Trump. There must be some policies that really angered a lot of people.
Could very well be the perception or reality of an Extreme Left... my reason for the statement the pendulum swinging back.
The SF Bay Area is anything but a Right stronghold. In fact having a Trump Hat or Bumper Sticker will cost you dearly...
This time around it was quite different than 8 years ago... the atmosphere at the Hospital where I work was exuberant and more... Obama Buttons, Lunch talk and election night the party never stopped... the bar nearby had to turn people away as too many were celebrating...
Quite different 4 years later... no celebrations...
Last week there was zero election talk... nothing for Hilary or Trump... no party, no lapel pins and no Bumper Stickers, no water cooler talk.
Admin in the past has held Democrat Fundraisers and meet the Candidate Forums... nothing this time and I mean nada...
Could very well be the perception or reality of an Extreme Left... my reason for the statement the pendulum swinging back.
The SF Bay Area is anything but a Right stronghold. In fact having a Trump Hat or Bumper Sticker will cost you dearly...
This time around it was quite different than 8 years ago... the atmosphere at the Hospital where I work was exuberant and more... Obama Buttons, Lunch talk and election night the party never stopped... the bar nearby had to turn people away as too many were celebrating...
Quite different 4 years later... no celebrations...
Last week there was zero election talk... nothing for Hilary or Trump... no party, no lapel pins and no Bumper Stickers, no water cooler talk.
Admin in the past has held Democrat Fundraisers and meet the Candidate Forums... nothing this time and I mean nada...
So what changed?
Not even an Obama Screen Saver to be found.
You are aware that President Obama was not running?
Only one of my close liberalish friends was for Hillary. It seemed in my limited experience that people supported Hillary and Trump similarly. Almost everyone I spoke with wanted a better candidate. That seemed to be the most uniting thing in this election. I personally thought Hillary would win and was shocked she did not. If she would have won I would not have been happy or proud. I guess I would feel a lot like a do now.
Science is never settled and to brutally honest when you make such statement you sound just like a religious zealot where no amount of reasoning could convince him otherwise. History is littered with such statements proved otherwise. In the early part of the last century the "settled" science was the Milky Way was the Universe and it was collapsing because that is what the math dictated, we know this to be wrong because of observation made by Hubble.
Always question things.
This is disingenuous at best.
While settled science is a misnomer, pretending that science is always radically changing its mind is just not true. It is deliberately used to make it seem like climate change is a hypothesis and that is also not true.
The climate changes is a fact.
CO2, methane, NOx, are greenhouse gases, this is fact.
The current climate change is not based on Milankovitch variation also FACT.
And calling others religious zealots when you have named your online identity with your position, is hypocrisy at its best. You have proven that you nothing "could convince you" with regards to coal and the need to move away from it, over and over again, so calling people out is again, the height of hypocrisy.
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