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So lets tell BMW NOT to hire 600 additional people. Or better yet, lets ask BMW to close the factory and fire all 7,000 people. Talk about hurting the little guy!
BMW's average 45K salary helps the little guy. If the little guy wants to make a 6 figure income, the little guy should go to college, work hard, and go to work for BMW as a high paid manager, open his own business or go into some high paying profession.
That is the great thing about the freedom of the US. The little guy can choose to be anything he wants to be and do anything he wants to do.
You forgot to mention one of the neatest BMW perk, after the first year, aren't all employees eligible for the reduced BMW lease?
You forgot to mention one of the neatest BMW perk, after the first year, aren't all employees eligible for the reduced BMW lease?
Yes, they are. They can lease a BMW for just a few hundred a month.
But with some of the negative attitudes brewing in the nation about large corporations, I'm sure that leased car is seen by some as "exploiting the little guy for advertising purposes".
Good for the companies.
Free enterprise should hold onto the money they make and build up a war-chest of funds......they'll need the money with the future debacle known as "Obamacare" (which hopefully will be overturned).
Actually, it's a way to raise "efficiency" by having the same amount of work performed by fewer people. It's all about keeping the stock prices high and those dividend payout rolling. But, thanks for turning this into something political when it didn't need to be.
As for BMW's hiring practices, South Carolina labor law allows employers to keep people on as contract workers and temps for a long time. This allows them to keep from paying health benefits, pensions and other things full employees are entitled to. You know, the things that help the middle class. That said, at least BMW makes it a practice to eventually hire contract workers. That makes them one of the better corporate actors in SC. So good on them.
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Originally Posted by gsupstate
, I'm sure that leased car is seen by some as "exploiting the little guy for advertising purposes".
Of all the things there are to complain about corporate behavior I imagine giving employees a sweet deal on a lease is pretty low on the list.
What about the little guy who needs to feed his family? Do you all own businesses that are taking advantage of the little guy?
BMW didn't have to build their plant here and expand with 1,600 new jobs over the past three months. They could have easily gone to China instead. BMW is following state and federal labor laws. If you don't like the way they treat their employees than contact your local state senator and tell him to get the law changed. Complaining on this forum isn't going to solve anything. And remember nobody is forcing these people to work at BMW. It is their choice. If the workers don't like the pay/treatment, they can easily leave.
As for BMW's hiring practices, South Carolina labor law allows employers to keep people on as contract workers and temps for a long time. This allows them to keep from paying health benefits, pensions and other things full employees are entitled to.
Maybe you should fact check a bit....
These 600 "contingency" jobs include full health and dental, 401K, vacation, etc. The jobs are fulltime 40 hour jobs and the people have the potential to become permanent employees. The contingency jobs can last 6 months, 6 years, 16 years, however long.....
The only difference in contingency and permanent employees....contingency can be laid off with no severance.
BMW adding 600 jobs - SC Business Report - Upstate - TheState.com (http://www.thestate.com/2010/10/05/1497498/bmw-adding-600-jobs.html - broken link)
I find it funny that people are complaining about jobs at BMW when the average pay for a line worker at BMW is significantly higher than a comparable job with the same experience/education requirements elsewhere.
To complain about having a contingency job at all is like looking a gift horse in the mouth. These people apply and are hired knowing full well that they are a contingency worker and may never be a permanent employee (based on the number of permanent employees it's probably more unlikely than it is likely - it would be very hard for BMW to keep 5000-7000 permanent employees for a whole slew of reasons).
It's annoying to see how many people feel they're entitled to something they're not. Also there are tons of contractors that have been working for BMW full time for 15 years.
Try walking a mile in the shoes of a man who wasn't fed with a silver spoon. Not everyone had the same opportunities.
It may be tougher for some people, but anyone can do or achieve anything if they want it badly enough. It's not always the "cool" thing to do, but hard work, perseverance & sacrifice are, as they say, their own reward. Education is the key. There are all kinds of need-based, athletic & other scholarship funds & grants out there for anyone who wants to rise from humble beginnings badly enough.
I find it funny that people are complaining about jobs at BMW when the average pay for a line worker at BMW is significantly higher than a comparable job with the same experience/education requirements elsewhere.
To complain about having a contingency job at all is like looking a gift horse in the mouth. These people apply and are hired knowing full well that they are a contingency worker and may never be a permanent employee (based on the number of permanent employees it's probably more unlikely than it is likely - it would be very hard for BMW to keep 5000-7000 permanent employees for a whole slew of reasons).
It's annoying to see how many people feel they're entitled to something they're not. Also there are tons of contractors that have been working for BMW full time for 15 years.
BMW is doing what they have to do to be successful, unlike their American counterparts. If you don't want to work for them, that's your choice. Again, that's what's great about this country.
One thing rarely if ever mentioned about BMW expansion is the fact that for every job at BMW, there are 4 or 5 in the area related to BMW. They don't make any parts at BMW; most of the bits and pieces are made in various factories in the upstate, then assembled at BMW. So the total impact is WAY more than the 7000 or so jobs at BMW. The downside, like any automotive business, is that when car sales fall off for whatever reason, the whole area suffers as well.
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