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Old 08-28-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Wake Forest, NC
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I've been pleased with the healthcare in Greenville. Had surgery on my ankle that went well (Steadman Hawkins doctor - they have a very strong reputation). I also have a child with some special health needs who has seen a variety of specialists. I have found these doctors to be knowledgeable and often less rushed than the doctors we saw in the Northeast. They seem willing to spend more time gathering info and making their assessment. My one complaint is that it can sometimes be a long wait to see a specialist because the rise in doctors has not kept pace with the population growth.
Doctors here definitely seem less rushed. Loved my dermatologist in Raleigh but we often had to wait 2 hours to see her. The long wait to see specialists has been a drawback for my husband and me. Hopefully some more doctors will decide to move here.
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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I know downtown Charlotte is also revitalizing, but every time I've been there, downtown was still a ghost town compared to downtown Greenville. The downtown here is a place people really want to go to. And even after living in this area for most of the past 25 years, I find going downtown (from Simpsonville) to feel like I'm literally going on a vacation. It's a treat and makes you feel warm and fuzzy. And I find new things that I didn't know existed every time I go.
Uptown Charlotte always has plenty of people out and about when I'm there but the biggest difference is that pedestrian activity is more dispersed in Uptown Charlotte because it's bigger; in downtown Greenville, the pedestrian activity is largely clustered along the Main Street corridor.
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:31 AM
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I know downtown Charlotte is also revitalizing, but every time I've been there, downtown was still a ghost town compared to downtown Greenville. The downtown here is a place people really want to go to. And even after living in this area for most of the past 25 years, I find going downtown (from Simpsonville) to feel like I'm literally going on a vacation. It's a treat and makes you feel warm and fuzzy. And I find new things that I didn't know existed every time I go.
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Yes! I feel like I am in Disneyland when I go downtown, and am fortunate that while I do not live with walking distance, I can be there door to door in 15 minutes.
Y'all are extremely fortunate, to live in close proximity to downtown Greenville.

And I much agree with the statement: "The downtown here is a place people really want to go to"

Okay...so I don't know downtown that well, but here's an example of a conversation we've had:

"Would you wanna go to the Mast General Store?"

(And after the General Store, I make unplanned stops at other stores, restaurants, Reedy Falls Park, etc)

Downtown Charlotte has no counterpart, nor is a counterpart likely. Instead, downtown Charlotte has several high priced eateries, a couple of museums which aren't worth visiting after the initial visit, (save the Harvey Gantt center, which is on my to do list).

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Uptown Charlotte always has plenty of people out and about when I'm there but the biggest difference is that pedestrian activity is more dispersed in Uptown Charlotte because it's bigger; in downtown Greenville, the pedestrian activity is largely clustered along the Main Street corridor.
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My comments are more for areas immediately outside of Charlotte's center city:

First, there aren't many venues that interest me. Second, there's the issue of mish mashed connectivity: downtown Greenville is organic; the connectivity between blocks is organic, etc. The older buildings are beautiful, and appropriate.

South End: nothing there very interesting (to/for me); and then you have a bar, followed by a warehouse, followed by another bar. There are sidewalks here or there, but there's no uniformity; sidewalks are too narrow. Yet they keep adding population.
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Old 08-28-2018, 12:29 PM
 
Location: charlotte
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I did not intend to get into a controversy with my comments . But when someone makes a statement that CLT is ghost town then I cannot ignore it. First I would bet money that twice the people are in downtown CLT vs downtown Greenville on any given weekend. All of the people in Greenville are on one street. Plus they are all walking on that Main Street. But you don’t have to take my word for it . Come to see for yourself. But I don’t believe that you have actually been to downtown CLT or you would not make such a statement.

I was simply telling NDL that CLT is growing rapidly and creating higher densities along rail lines and downtown. That is not going to change. He mentioned that Greenville has low rise buildings downtown and he likes that. But CLT cannot grow like that. GSP is more blue collar. CLT needs large quantities of space in office towers available in one building when a new company wants to relocate. CLT is growing much different than Greenville.

I do not know NDL’s profession and do not need to know it. I am just saying that CLT is growing much faster than GSP and with higher densities. So it makes sense that Greenville may be more to his liking. I have read his comments in the CLT forum for quite sometime. I know that he is opposed to CLT’s rapid growth. And I believe he may be opposed to building high density rail corridors. And that is ok if he is opposed to the way CLT is growing. It is not for everyone.
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Old 08-28-2018, 12:48 PM
 
Location: charlotte
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As for Greenville , I have been downtown. It is a great downtown. I can see why NDL would like it. And that is ok. But the two cities are much different. And the downtowns are much different. They both have a lot of weekend activities but, I think Gteenville’s may be more family oriented. That is ok but different from CLT.
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Old 08-28-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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Uptown Charlotte is built for the big banks there, the lawyers and accountants who service those banks, the 20-somethings who are analysts in those banks and want to go out for drinks after work, and the managing directors in those banks who want to have dinner at the Ritz-Carlton with clients after work.

Downtown Greenville is for the whole community; the office space contains more of a mix of companies and the downtown workforce is smaller than in Charlotte, so the people downtown are a good mix of the community.

The one odd thing about uptown Charlotte is its lack of retail stores. Greenville has way more retail than Charlotte's uptown- probably even in an absolute square footage comparison, and Greenville has retailers that any class A mall would want, such as Brooks Brothers and Anthropologie. It's odd that Charlotte does not.
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Old 08-28-2018, 01:41 PM
 
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Uptown Charlotte always has plenty of people out and about when I'm there but the biggest difference is that pedestrian activity is more dispersed in Uptown Charlotte because it's bigger; in downtown Greenville, the pedestrian activity is largely clustered along the Main Street corridor.
I agree. I was in Charlotte last week for work. Uptown had plenty of people there. It's just a different dynamic. I like what they're doing up there as well as what going on in Greenville.

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Old 08-28-2018, 01:48 PM
 
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I did not intend to get into a controversy with my comments . But when someone makes a statement that CLT is ghost town then I cannot ignore it. First I would bet money that twice the people are in downtown CLT vs downtown Greenville on any given weekend. All of the people in Greenville are on one street. Plus they are all walking on that Main Street. But you don’t have to take my word for it . Come to see for yourself. But I don’t believe that you have actually been to downtown CLT or you would not make such a statement.

I was simply telling NDL that CLT is growing rapidly and creating higher densities along rail lines and downtown. That is not going to change. He mentioned that Greenville has low rise buildings downtown and he likes that. But CLT cannot grow like that. GSP is more blue collar. CLT needs large quantities of space in office towers available in one building when a new company wants to relocate. CLT is growing much different than Greenville.

I do not know NDL’s profession and do not need to know it. I am just saying that CLT is growing much faster than GSP and with higher densities. So it makes sense that Greenville may be more to his liking. I have read his comments in the CLT forum for quite sometime. I know that he is opposed to CLT’s rapid growth. And I believe he may be opposed to building high density rail corridors. And that is ok if he is opposed to the way CLT is growing. It is not for everyone.
I can agree with most of this, except that people are only on Main Street. That just isn't true. There is activity on most of the streets. And Main Street itself is actually pretty long. There is a lot on it. Both cities are nice, just different. I like them both, but choose Greenville. Charlotte is much bigger, but that doesn't make Greenville any less likable.
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Old 08-28-2018, 02:48 PM
 
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I can agree with most of this, except that people are only on Main Street. That just isn't true. There is activity on most of the streets. And Main Street itself is actually pretty long. There is a lot on it. Both cities are nice, just different. I like them both, but choose Greenville. Charlotte is much bigger, but that doesn't make Greenville any less likable.
I agree. While it used to be true, the idea that downtown is just main street is now only a persistent myth. It usually states something like this: " It's tiny downtown is relegated to a few blocks on main street but little else..."

In reality, the downtown footprint has at least doubled in the past 15 years. Mainstreet now stretches 2 miles (surprising to most people) from the completely being remade areas of Main/ Stone to Main/Pendleton. The entire area between is either heavily traveled or on the cusp with current development. Over the same period of time, parallel roads to main have benefited (as have its perpendicular streets) from all the hotels, retail, restaurants, and development. While main is still certainly the core, its not the "all". Add in West End, Heritage Green, etc. And stay tuned, with the other developments going on today, and County Square and Unity Park drawing near, DT will be even larger in a few years. Is downtown as large geographically as a lot of other cities; no. But it is larger, denser, (now anyway) and more 3-D than many realize or give it credit for.
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Old 08-28-2018, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Simpsonville, SC
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What's interesting about all this discussion is that Charlotte's median house or condo value is actually lower than Greenville's ($201,500 vs. $266,400 in 2016 according to this site). So maybe the OP actually does have a bit of a point.
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