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Need to know, I have heard so much about SC and some of it not good for people of Color. I was wondering, due to a possible move to Easley, SC, Pickens County, No School Age Children. Is this a nice area and would an African American Family feel safe in Easley? Is Easley receptive to people of color? So sad this question has to be asked in 2007 when a move to the south is involved.
well, as you see on this board there's a majority bias but i refuse to lie for interests b/c i have inside views on all things i speak on.. whether people want me to have those looks or not, haha.. I have them
I don't think it's bad here for minorities, especially those who come here with a job in mind........... It's just BORING and hard to find a level networking field for people with interests in helping build minority interests
Social wise, i think this city lacks a lot....... compared to the surrounding metros Charlotte or Atlanta, it definitely does not fill the slots for people with diverse interets.
I feel for minorities that are of a sophisticated nature you lose that atmosphere you might find elsewhere with people of AA, DR, PR, Cubano, West Indian, Chaldean, White, etc blending with no major contrasts......
When you talk about racism, you want to stay out of the Laurens area I believe, I think that's where they have the Klu Klux Klan memorabilia shop still in operation........ and i can't remember but there's another city where there's a Klan march / rally time to time.... and u know... it's amazing they get to do this........ to me...
a story on this is below. I wish I could find this other article but i think all people need to take a stand, stop funding anything associated iwth such things... period.... people actually have dollars that are going towards this crap via taxes and supporting those that support this store via ads or whatever
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One of our Greenville readers alerted us to the fact that, while listening to Sean Hannity on WFIS AM (1600) in Fountain Inn, she heard an ad for The Redneck Shop in Laurens.
The proprietor of the Redneck Shop, John Howard, is Emperor of the Invisible Empire of the International Knights of the Ku Klux Klan based in Enoree, SC... The website for the shop also includes pictures of the interior, a statement from the SC director of the Council of Conservative Citizens, and links to David Duke's EURO as well as to the Klan. The products sold inside include t-shirts, bumper stickers, clothing and Maurice's BBQ sauce. We have also seen concrete Klansman figures, that were apparently made at Howard's concrete business, for sale as far away as Wildman's, a Civil War "surplus store", in Kennesaw, GA. >> More
Email Sean Hannity and his syndication company, ABC Radio, and ask them if they're comfortable accepting advertising money from the KKK.
well, as you see on this board there's a majority bias but i refuse to lie for interests b/c i have inside views on all things i speak on.. whether people want me to have those looks or not, haha.. I have them
I don't think it's bad here for minorities, especially those who come here with a job in mind........... It's just BORING and hard to find a level networking field for people with interests in helping build minority interests
Social wise, i think this city lacks a lot....... compared to the surrounding metros Charlotte or Atlanta, it definitely does not fill the slots for people with diverse interets.
I feel for minorities that are of a sophisticated nature you lose that atmosphere you might find elsewhere with people of AA, DR, PR, Cubano, West Indian, Chaldean, White, etc blending with no major contrasts......
When you talk about racism, you want to stay out of the Laurens area I believe, I think that's where they have the Klu Klux Klan memorabilia shop still in operation........ and i can't remember but there's another city where there's a Klan march / rally time to time.... and u know... it's amazing they get to do this........ to me...
a story on this is below. I wish I could find this other article but i think all people need to take a stand, stop funding anything associated iwth such things... period.... people actually have dollars that are going towards this crap via taxes and supporting those that support this store via ads or whatever
What is minority entertainment? What are minority interests?
When you talk about racism, you want to stay out of the Laurens area I believe, I think that's where they have the Klu Klux Klan memorabilia shop still in operation........ and i can't remember but there's another city where there's a Klan march / rally time to time.... and u know... it's amazing they get to do this........ to me...
a story on this is below. I wish I could find this other article but i think all people need to take a stand, stop funding anything associated iwth such things... period.... people actually have dollars that are going towards this crap via taxes and supporting those that support this store via ads or whatever
I don't know the particulars but have heard that Laurens has no zoning laws or vastly loose zoning, so that could account for a shop of that kind being allowed. It should not be. It's a slap in the face to every human being and makes me sick just reading about.
It's important to get this kind of information and have your eyes open. That said, this poster didn't ask about Laurens. They asked about Easley.
Regarding the KKK meetings in SC, look at the corporate address:
KKK and National Socialist Movement meet in SC (http://www.nsm88.org/photos/sc2005/sc2005.html - broken link)
It's in Minneapolis. There are hateful, ignorant people everywhere. Sure these pictures scare the heck out of me, including the ones of the shop in Laurens which you can Google. It's not only because I'm Jewish, since millions of non-Jews were also murdered throughout Europe. It's the fact that the shop exists. However, in my travels I've experienced bigotry even in areas with cultural diversity. It seems as if one group of people always chooses another group of people to hate.
I wish I could answer jtatscha, but I don't live in Greenville yet. IMHO a White person can't possibly answer a Black person who asks what it's like to live in a town anyway. He can only give a personal opinion that will depend on how he views minorities and Blacks in the community. Most Whites won't admit it, but I have no idea what it's like to be judged by the color of my skin. I've experienced terrible anti-semitism which hurts, but I could decide to keep my mouth shut or change my name as many people (not only Jews) did years ago to get a job.
I'm not sure that even a person from the same religious or racial group can can tell another what he/she will experience in a community. Don't you believe that personal experience is strongly influenced by one's financial and educational background? For example, I live in Southwest FL where there are a lot of very wealthy people in multi-million dollar homes down the block from run down apartments & trailers where often 2 or 3 families squeeze into 4 rooms. So when I talk about Bonita Springs or Naples, I might paint a very different picture than someone who lives in one of those homes along the Gulf of Mexico, drives a new Mercedes and shops for a living if I need to work 2 jobs just to pay the rent or feed my family. One person on a board will write "I love it here" and another will write "I can't even afford to buy milk."
I know race is different than social class, but I think most people just want their neighbors to be responsible members of the community, no matter what they look like. Maybe I'm just being naive. By the way, I had similar questions when I first began looking at areas around Greenville, so I decided to contact the various organizations I might be interested in joining. I think that's where you'll get the best answers.
Last edited by justNancy; 10-07-2007 at 01:28 PM..
i never doubted there were racists/ignorance everywhere but there's truths to parts of all rumors and SC is well known across the nation and stereotyped for its racial injustices, poor education rankings, spousal abuse, and lack of cultural acceptance
It's an culturall ignorant state and those people wishing to keep it 'the same' will only see more ignorance spread.
It's not that I'm saying anything about the upstate being a bad place as a whole but this person asked a specific question. From one minority to the next, I understand their concerns and give them an overall view and not limit htem to the Easley area..
Fountain Inn, which is probably 25 minutes away just had Jesse Jackson in town b/c SUPPOSEDLY a troubled youth hung himself in one of the jails, while being held overnight. People do not believe he did this, including his family. There's a problem.
To no offense you should take this but if you're not a person with a cultured background whether it be West Indian, Native American, Carribean, Asian, your view will never be the same as a person who's come from a cultured background. And it will vary culture to culture but we share more common bonds than minority / majority.
I've spoke with people that've moved here and established businesses from all over and quite a few cultural backgrounds. Those of a progressive nature tend to say the same things. And then we usually end up reminsicing about places we might have both been and talk about why Greenville needs to provide some of the same things.
We like some things here of course. A lot of things are cool. But we're not feeling totally accepted here. It's more about just 'moving along'.... Greenville has yet to leave behind a lot of it's 'set ways' but it's being forced now b/c of the market changes in the industries that once ruled here
In my opinon, when you want answers, you talk to the people.
The people on this board have their own opinions, no problem, but it will not the be same as the average person in the community who's in their youth at all.
i never doubted there were racists/ignorance everywhere but there's truths to parts of all rumors and SC is well known across the nation and stereotyped for its racial injustices, poor education rankings, spousal abuse, and lack of cultural acceptance
It's an culturall ignorant state and those people wishing to keep it 'the same' will only see more ignorance spread.
It's not that I'm saying anything about the upstate being a bad place as a whole but this person asked a specific question. From one minority to the next, I understand their concerns and give them an overall view and not limit htem to the Easley area..
Fountain Inn, which is probably 25 minutes away just had Jesse Jackson in town b/c SUPPOSEDLY a troubled youth hung himself in one of the jails, while being held overnight. People do not believe he did this, including his family. There's a problem.
To no offense you should take this but if you're not a person with a cultured background whether it be West Indian, Native American, Carribean, Asian, your view will never be the same as a person who's come from a cultured background. And it will vary culture to culture but we share more common bonds than minority / majority.
I've spoke with people that've moved here and established businesses from all over and quite a few cultural backgrounds. Those of a progressive nature tend to say the same things. And then we usually end up reminsicing about places we might have both been and talk about why Greenville needs to provide some of the same things.
We like some things here of course. A lot of things are cool. But we're not feeling totally accepted here. It's more about just 'moving along'.... Greenville has yet to leave behind a lot of it's 'set ways' but it's being forced now b/c of the market changes in the industries that once ruled here
In my opinon, when you want answers, you talk to the people.
The people on this board have their own opinions, no problem, but it will not the be same as the average person in the community who's in their youth at all.
I just wanted to mention something I hear constantly whenever I bring up where I grew up(rochester, ny) everyone says (loosely translated)"stop trying to turn here into where you are from, if you don't like it, you should have stayed there!" I have heard this multiple times(usually in a joking manner, but I get the point), in different messageboards and in person as well. I think the same applies to what sojones is talking about to some extent. There are tons of things to do in greenville, I still haven't heard an answer to what exactly "Cultured" or minority entertainment is, but if you can't find it here maybe you are looking in the wrong city, and I don't mean that in a racist way, I mean it in a personal way. Maybe its not a racial thing at all, maybe its just you and the people you have spoken to missing the things that they liked about where they used to live, just like me. I love this city, but there are things about where I am from that I miss as well, nothing wrong with that, but I wouldn't want to change Greenville into Rochester.What I mean is maybe the entertainment that is in Greenville is not for you, but the city can't cater to every single individuals needs, thats just silly. Greenville has so many people from all over the US, in fact I am hard pressed to find someone who actually grew up here! So what you say about you and the people you talk to saying they feel like they don't fit in blows my mind. You think people just move here and automatically become racist and/or biased against specific races?? sounds kind of odd if you ask me
If things stayed the same, there would be no need for this board or anybody to move because everywhere would be the same
Right-wings of Greenville even said their greatest mistake was not staying abreast of change.
NOTHING CAN BE GREAT AND GROW WITHOUT CHANGE. Name 1 thing.
Politicians promote change.......................
Why is it a problem when I speak of it?
I never said greenville was bad. I just said it needs more cultural celebration / embracement. It needs more entertainment for the youth.
Ask your kids if you have them, "Do you like living here? And no matter what the answer. Follow up with , What do you think this city needs"
Those simple questions might change the way people look at me. I'm just a blunt person.
AFter all, that's what made me and that's what got me where I'm at. And I'm pretty darn successful at it, so I'm not going to bend, break, or fold on these stand points.
I spent over 20 years of my life here or in and out of here, so I think I can speak on these topics better than most people here. I still remember when Greenville had drive in theatres by McCallister Square and the Square was a mall, not Greenville Tech. I remember whne Downtown was once thriving way better than it is now and there was all kinds of stores along the streets, catering to the inner city majority (not saying change wasn't needed either).
I remember when Greenville, the city, everybody had to drive there to get everything and Laurens Road was a 'hot spot'.
i just think change should embrace all people and not leave out a culture, age group, or any other demographic!
If we are the people of Greenville, we have to make Greenville the best place it can be. We don't ahve the statistics of Amhurst, New York and until we get active, we will only get worse.
PS: I do not need to explain what "cultural entertainment" is. Culture does not mean race. If you can not understand, then you probably never will. That means you have put yourself in a 'box' that you like. I like to try anything and everything once. I think a city should cater to everyone.
New YOrk, Atlanta, California, and evne Charlotte does this........ why can't Greenville?
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