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Old 09-25-2011, 12:16 AM
 
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Didn't want to start a new thread on the topic for such a narrow question, I just searched for whatever thread was discussing the subject of Class III, and figured this seemed to be the most relevant thread to put a general question in.


Anyway, if anyone is familiar with Class III rules, can you tell me what the rules are regarding legal purchased machine guns insofar as, who can the owner of such a weapon lend the weapon to? Let's say, for example:

(a) two friends are at a range (even though most ranges probably frown on full-auto weapons - that aside), can the one who legally bought the weapon let his friend (an otherwise non-prohibited person who can lawfully own pistols and rifles under federal and state law) borrow it to test fire it?

(b) Along similar lines, can the owner of such a weapon let the same friend borrow the weapon longer term (e.g. let's say the owner lets the friend take it home with him for some unspecified time).


Trying to figure out if the Class III regulations govern only the purchasing of the weapon, or if it also covers who the owner can allow to have possession of the weapon (beside a "prohibited" person, who can't generally have most firearms anyway - nevermind Class III stuff).

I know that some gun shops let customers rent them [machine guns], and likewise if you go to gun shows, they even let children have possession of them to fire.... but I don't know if gun dealers have some special legal authority to let others have possession of the weapons which a "regular citizen" who buys a lawful machine gun doesn't.
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:43 AM
 
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Didn't want to start a new thread on the topic for such a narrow question, I just searched for whatever thread was discussing the subject of Class III, and figured this seemed to be the most relevant thread to put a general question in.


Anyway, if anyone is familiar with Class III rules, can you tell me what the rules are regarding legal purchased machine guns insofar as, who can the owner of such a weapon lend the weapon to? Let's say, for example:

(a) two friends are at a range (even though most ranges probably frown on full-auto weapons - that aside), can the one who legally bought the weapon let his friend (an otherwise non-prohibited person who can lawfully own pistols and rifles under federal and state law) borrow it to test fire it?

(b) Along similar lines, can the owner of such a weapon let the same friend borrow the weapon longer term (e.g. let's say the owner lets the friend take it home with him for some unspecified time).


Trying to figure out if the Class III regulations govern only the purchasing of the weapon, or if it also covers who the owner can allow to have possession of the weapon (beside a "prohibited" person, who can't generally have most firearms anyway - nevermind Class III stuff).

I know that some gun shops let customers rent them [machine guns], and likewise if you go to gun shows, they even let children have possession of them to fire.... but I don't know if gun dealers have some special legal authority to let others have possession of the weapons which a "regular citizen" who buys a lawful machine gun doesn't.
Under your control or felony.

If you leave it in the trunk and your wife goes to the store you both broke the law.

If a Trust owns the weapon you have some flexibility.

Not otherwise. (Largely)
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Old 09-25-2011, 02:10 AM
 
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Didn't want to start a new thread on the topic for such a narrow question, I just searched for whatever thread was discussing the subject of Class III, and figured this seemed to be the most relevant thread to put a general question in.


Anyway, if anyone is familiar with Class III rules, can you tell me what the rules are regarding legal purchased machine guns insofar as, who can the owner of such a weapon lend the weapon to? Let's say, for example:

(a) two friends are at a range (even though most ranges probably frown on full-auto weapons - that aside), can the one who legally bought the weapon let his friend (an otherwise non-prohibited person who can lawfully own pistols and rifles under federal and state law) borrow it to test fire it?

(b) Along similar lines, can the owner of such a weapon let the same friend borrow the weapon longer term (e.g. let's say the owner lets the friend take it home with him for some unspecified time).


Trying to figure out if the Class III regulations govern only the purchasing of the weapon, or if it also covers who the owner can allow to have possession of the weapon (beside a "prohibited" person, who can't generally have most firearms anyway - nevermind Class III stuff).

I know that some gun shops let customers rent them [machine guns], and likewise if you go to gun shows, they even let children have possession of them to fire.... but I don't know if gun dealers have some special legal authority to let others have possession of the weapons which a "regular citizen" who buys a lawful machine gun doesn't.
You or those people listed on the trust or corporation must have control of said firearm at all times. You can't just loan said firearm to a friend for the weekend....this is illegally transferring a Machine gun. Now you can let someone shoot said firearm...but you better be right there with him or risk breaking the law. When renting a Machine gun, most owners are generally there standing by you and want hand you said firearm until ready to shoot and their ready to grab it when you're done.
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